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Stars & moon (orchestral)

ryst

www.nathandanielmusic.com
Thanks Ryan, I'll probably be working on the mix as I go before final release on Album, I think I feel what you mentioned but i'm always afraid of taking away too much from that range, I may need to go back to the master file and re export after some less harshness.
Dynamic eq works well to tame harsh midrange. Just a few db's in the 2-3k range (sometimes higher) always works for me.
 

cloudesky

New Member
Thank you! no tutorials, it was all experimentation on my part. but what I was guided by is grouping the instruments together and isolating them on their own, then understanding where they are in the orchestra stage. a Basic idea is, your strings are always on your left, woodwinds always somewhere in the middle, cellos on right, brass is back end a bit, and percussion back end a bit as well.

So I grouped each instruments, i.E Violins, cellos/bass, woodwinds, brass, percussion, routed the output of each section to an individual altiverb plugin, used the same reverb type for all altiverb, but now I had control on each section's where about, parameters, etc. if you own Altiverb, you'll understand what i mean once you mess with it, it has lots of lovely features.

so that is the basic idea, but that always highly relies on the libraries you purchased and how they were recorded, some libraries like css (yes i have it) has that natural placement recording, but then i tampered with it a bit, so its a fight with how these sample libraries are recorded. I can tell you i've been back and fourth about it for a year and half now trying to fine tune it and i don't personally believe i nailed it, i think it'll take a-lot more fine tuning, the worst part about it is each individual piece of music I go through, specifically dynamics, demands I tamper with the parameters of each altiverb, sends, Eqs, so fourth exclusively for each piece, so it can be alot of work, but the outcome...is very worth your time.

I hope that gives you a general idea.

Thank you for the very useful tips. All I can say is keep doing what you're doing, you're music sounds very beautiful and unique.:2thumbs:
 

ScarletJerry

Active Member
Hello friends,

wanted to share piece #4 of 7 ,i've posted the others here before, night & day, paradise Vally, human journey.


Let me say, the main melody which comes around 2:33, is what the piece is built around. i'd say if the length of the piece is a turn off, I understand, but i do highly recommend letting the 2:33 melody come by, if its still bad, abandon ship at your convenience.

from technical point of view, I'd say, i have a few more MIDI note fixes to do and a few orchestration beefing in some areas but at the moment it escapes me..which makes it time to let it out and see how you all feel about it. but technical feed back if any of you want to take this journey is welcome.
This sounds amazing! My guess is that you used Hollywood Strings for the string section, correct?

-Scarlet Jerry
 
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sherief83

Sheriefmusic.com
Woah. Excellent work, Sherief! I really enjoyed it. Some of it reminded me of something I'd hear in old classic Disney cartoon movies.
Thank you! :)

Dynamic eq works well to tame harsh midrange. Just a few db's in the 2-3k range (sometimes higher) always works for me.
Something to experiment with for sure! thanks for sharing :)


This sounds amazing! My guess is that you used Hollywood Strings for the string section, correct?

-Scarlet Jerry
Thanks! CSS is what i'm using here.
 

quetzal

New Member
Hello,

I really like the piece, great colours, you bring up the melody extremely well!! overall very sweet.
My only concern is with the chromatic moments. They are very predictable, but even with a little rhythmic variation it will make the trick :)


I just subscribed to the forum to share my thoughts with you, I really enjoy your composition!


Thank you for sharing.
 
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sherief83

Sheriefmusic.com
Hello,

I really like the piece, great colours, you bring up the melody extremely well!! overall very sweet.
My only concern is with the chromatic moments. They are very predictable, but even with a little rhythmic variation it will make the trick :)


I just subscribed to the forum to share my thoughts with you, I really enjoy your composition!


Thank you for sharing.
Welcome to the form! And thanks for letting me know your thoughts! :)

The piece will be part of my upcoming album Quixotic love IV and is sort of still work in progress. The final version may end up being slightly shorter but every time I think that someone lets me know it shouldn’t be cut lol.

It really does need visuals of sort to justify its form the way it is and that’s where I am with it.

I’ll be posting a new one that is part of this series in the next few month called ‘ land walker & sky flyers ‘
And that one has my focus now.
 

quetzal

New Member
Welcome to the form! And thanks for letting me know your thoughts! :)

The piece will be part of my upcoming album Quixotic love IV and is sort of still work in progress. The final version may end up being slightly shorter but every time I think that someone lets me know it shouldn’t be cut lol.

It really does need visuals of sort to justify its form the way it is and that’s where I am with it.

I’ll be posting a new one that is part of this series in the next few month called ‘ land walker & sky flyers ‘
And that one has my focus now.
I will be waiting for the final work then. Good luck!
 

LamaRose

Gato Mighty!
This sounds like an authentic, vintage recording of a beloved 20th-century classical/neo classical work. I've been listening to a ton of pieces from this period - cinematic and strictly orchestral - and this can hang with the best of them, imho. It has a magical, uplifting spirit to it in contrast to the dark loathing so often heard in this current age.

The mix and vibe are outstanding... yeah, I can hear the harshness others are commenting on, but this only adds to the vintage mood. I would love to hear this in person with a full orchestra, and I suspect that many others would hear the magic going on and love it as well.
 

sIR dORT

Active Member
Really great piece. Sometimes pieces that long can loose people, but I though you did an excellent job of bringing your main theme/melody in the right moments to give the song direction and unity. The room mix of reverb was cool, and the strings and harp were beautiful. Well done! :thumbsup:
 
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sherief83

Sheriefmusic.com
Nice her something not so massive indeed some parts sound little harsh. but i feel is very common thing.
Thank you! Appreciate it :)

This is seriously impressive!
Thanks! :)

This sounds like an authentic, vintage recording of a beloved 20th-century classical/neo classical work. I've been listening to a ton of pieces from this period - cinematic and strictly orchestral - and this can hang with the best of them, imho. It has a magical, uplifting spirit to it in contrast to the dark loathing so often heard in this current age.

The mix and vibe are outstanding... yeah, I can hear the harshness others are commenting on, but this only adds to the vintage mood. I would love to hear this in person with a full orchestra, and I suspect that many others would hear the magic going on and love it as well.
I think you nailed what I’m always after and thank you for your kind words!

I basically dissected a lot of the recordings of my favorite orchestral works and most of them were recorded with a lot of noise and hiss and basically you feel the presence of the musician there and so fourth. So I’m always trying to recreate that just for my own entertainment but sometimes I do go too far which is why I post them to put my ears in check.

Really great piece. Sometimes pieces that long can lose people, but I though you did an excellent job of bringing your main theme/melody in the right moments to give the song direction and unity. The room mix of reverb was cool, and the strings and harp were beautiful. Well done! :thumbsup:
Thank you! Appreciate that. Things were even longer in the classical/romantic/impressionistic world believe it or not. But I am appreciative that you guys gave it a chance all the way.

It’s diffcult to write something this long in today world. Too much contents available and not enough time for all of it, so people start getting picky on what they want to spend time on. Hence why 3-4 mins is the rule if you’d like a wider audience but....I just fail in that department when it comes to personal content.
I always feel it has to be a captivating journey from point A to B to C and back to A.

It’s almost a film if the music is good enough to inspire visuals in you. Or you imagine your self conducting it.

Yes I do that for my favorite pieces to feel their tempo and understand orchestration decisions. Lol

Thanks again!
 
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