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SSS difference spicc vs TM spicc patch and template question

Discussion in 'SAMPLE Talk' started by CQrity, Dec 6, 2017.

  1. CQrity

    CQrity Active Member

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    Hey guys,

    as I couldn't find a documentation for Spitfire's Symphonic Strings I have to ask:
    Is there an audible difference between the spiccato patch vs the time machine spiccato? They have a different footprint (32Mb vs ~220Mb) but I couldn't hear a difference with close mics. If I use the TM slider there will obviously be a difference, but I thought it would be just a timestretch. With a look at the footprint there seem to be different samples?

    And then I wondered which articuations you would consider to be essential. I want to build my template only with articulations I will use 80% of the time. For me that would be (for strings):
    performance leg
    longs
    spicc (tm)
    pizz
    trem
    half trills min/maj
    Do you think I would miss something? Or do I have already too much?
    That is of course not really important, as one patch more or less isn't a dealbreaker. However I am interested in how you are handling this stuff.

    Thanks for help!
     
  2. tehreal

    tehreal Senior Member

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    The Time Machine patches have to load all the samples into memory (instead of streaming from disk) which is why the memory usage is much higher.
     
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  3. OP
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    CQrity Active Member

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    Thanks a lot for clarifying :)
     
  4. Ben E

    Ben E Senior Member

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    I don't think I've ever used the longs patches. I use the individual sections performance legato patches for long notes. I do, however, use the flautando (ensemble) patch for some long notes. Otherwise the patches you list are exactly the ones I use the most. (But I use the regular spicc, not the TM ones.)
     
  5. Paul Thomson

    Paul Thomson Senior Member

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    Hi CQ -

    If you go to the product page on the website and scroll down you’ll find the link to the user manual - lots of great info in there!

    All best,

    Paul
     
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  6. OP
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    CQrity

    CQrity Active Member

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    Yeah, I already wondered what exactly "long" means. As there are dedicated legato patches I figured it has to be a sustain patch.
    I have to work through all those special articulations and see, which are of regular use. I will have a listen to the flautando ones :)

    There was a piece here on V.I. where the TM patch was really good for fast passages. And as there are all options in there, I chose the TM patch.
    You can compare here:
    https://vi-control.net/community/threads/the-robber-sss-spitfire-symphonic-strings.57432/


    I worked on the template and an expression map a bit and for some reason the Celli don't play anymore from C3-D#2. *headscratch*
     
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    CQrity Active Member

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    Awesome, thanks!
    For some reason I didn't find it. I searched through the QnA section, the support tab... Thanks a lot!
     
  8. Jesse Heslinga

    Jesse Heslinga Senior Member

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    Spend a few weeks with SSS, for now I have for every string section:
    Long
    Con Sordino
    Trem

    & for shorts strings:
    Spicc
    Pizz
    Spicc CS
    Col Legno

    I most be the only one, but in general I don't like legato patches for 90% of string work, so unless I want the sharper attack of of the perf legato patches, I tend to use longs.
     
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2017

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