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AlexanderSchiborr

Senior Member
Yes, the sm had more reverb, but you can make it drier of course. Like I said: Fluid lines with a lot of expression where you can sculpture the expression is more important to me than the tone. These are drier settings, here. There is no right or wrong, each to their own of course but still I think that mikets example completely is obvious inferior when it comes to creating fluid lines and expression, just for me of course...if you like the brass there is nothing wrong with that and enjoy the new library. You know it is not about brass battles here, it is just different philosophies.

 
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miket

Senior Member
There is no right or wrong, each to their own of course but still I think that mikets example completely is obvious inferior when it comes to creating fluid lines and expression, just for me of course...
This sentence gave me whiplash.

The last thing I wanted was to start this same old tired discussion, with the usual suspects, and the usual (intentional or not) vaguely haughty tone.

Time to pack up my trash and exit thread right, then, lest this end up in the Drama Zone. That's not a club I want to join.
 

AlexanderSchiborr

Senior Member
This sentence gave me whiplash.

The last thing I wanted was to start this same old tired discussion, with the usual suspects, and the usual (intentional or not) vaguely haughty tone.

Time to pack up my trash and exit thread right, then, lest this end up in the Drama Zone. That's not a club I want to join.
Why? Did I say something wrong? What is with the argument putting it into the drama zone just because that there are different opinions? Sorry if so but that wasnt my intention.
 
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LowweeK

Loïc D
@miket : I’m really interested in SSB, so you can post examples & contribute as much as you want, please.
I won’t criticize since I don’t have a standard library to compare to (except good old ewqlso gold) :)
 

miket

Senior Member
Oh, criticize all you want, please! It's not that... although in a few cases one is left wishing for a *tad* more tact and self-awareness.

I just don't want to have been responsible for another one of these circular debates that accomplish nothing, and which are so prevalent recently. Although, the damage is already done, I suppose.
 

HelixK

Active Member
SM at least to my ears is clearly superior to create fluid lines and believable phrasing. BUT Studio Brass is good enough to make me wanna use it instead. I love the trumpets here!

EDIT. shame that the dropbox link is no longer working, it presented the trumpets and horns in a far better light than any Spitfire demo. Still not so sure about the trombones and tubas...
 

HelixK

Active Member
Yes, the sm had more reverb, but you can make it drier of course. Like I said: Fluid lines with a lot of expression where you can sculpture the expression is more important to me than the tone. These are drier settings, here. There is no right or wrong, each to their own of course but still I think that mikets example completely is obvious inferior when it comes to creating fluid lines and expression, just for me of course...if you like the brass there is nothing wrong with that and enjoy the new library. You know it is not about brass battles here, it is just different philosophies.

I like this dryer version a lot more! Alex what's up with the sound breaking up at 0:04 ?
 

AlexanderSchiborr

Senior Member
Oh, criticize all you want, please! It's not that... although in a few cases one is left wishing for a *tad* more tact and self-awareness.

I just don't want to have been responsible for another one of these circular debates that accomplish nothing, and which are so prevalent recently. Although, the damage is already done, I suppose.
Me neither, I just posted it to have a comparison. Either what you like better, is completely ok, I said that already. Am I allowed to say something here in that thread about the studio brass which isn´t only praise without getting dramatized? :D . I didn´t said anything rude to you. And I dont want any endless debates either. Please get that point straight man. Again I said: I like the pure tone of studio brass but on the other hand, I think its not possible to create fluid lines like with sample modeling - May I say that without that you get that wrong? Man..All good! :) Please..and reupload your examples..man.
 
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Alex Fraser

Senior Member
Absolutely no insult meant to any of the participants, but a VI played solo like that is always going to have a whiff of midi about it. It's only in arrangements IMO that these sounds come to life and start to fool the ear. That's what they're designed for. Not sure I would have made any Spitfire purchases without first hearing the deft touch of Mr Blaney.
 

spiderfingers

New Member
I am a little bit surprised by the regular prices (€200/€400), same with the strings. It's a totally different price range than the old orchestra which went up to €999 for Chamber Strings Pro. Does Spitfire think this library is not that great or do they hope to get more customers?
 

Alex Fraser

Senior Member
I am a little bit surprised by the regular prices (€200/€400), same with the strings. It's a totally different price range than the old orchestra which went up to €999 for Chamber Strings Pro. Does Spitfire think this library is not that great or do they hope to get more customers?
Good question. I reckon they're experimenting with price and the market. A new product would be ideal for this, as once you reduce the price of the top-end product, there's no going back. Also - the higher price for the "normal" Spitfire Orchestra helps to reframe the studio series as more of a bargain. ;)
 

Hanu_H

Senior Member
I also want to apologize to Miket if you feel my comments were too harsh. I never meant to criticize your work, only the aspects of the library. I think you did a good job and it really doesn't sound bad. My comments were only comparing SSB to other products that I own and use every day. And we all have different tastes and I am sure this library is totally usable in every way. But the problem is that the competition is so hard now and all the libraries are really good, so comparing them is really about nitpicking and the small differences instead of this is right and this is wrong. Please put the dropbox link back, I am sure it will help many people with their decision.

-Hannes
 

madfloyd

Active Member
I did a little bit of the raiders march with CSB for comparison.

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[AUDIOPLUS=https://www.vi-control.net/community/attachments/raiders-march-trumpets-mp3.17101/][/AUDIOPLUS]
Seems like the 2nd one isn't here anymore?
 
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