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jbuhler

Senior Member
Am I the only one that is put off by Spitfire reusing demos from other libraries to promote their newer ones? I'm pretty sure Christian's demo for this is the same from Studio Strings but with a little bit of some brass now. I would really like a demo that can showcase Brass writing. Good or bad.
Except it does show off the brass and an aspect of the library that the others do not. I would have liked more demos and some demos that really showed the difference between the two versions of the library.
 

The Darris

Senior Member
I had to double check the website. Because they have the two versions, it was a bit confusing on my phone. I thought the only demo out there was the release video on Youtube. I'm listening to the actual demos now. My bad.
 

N.Caffrey

Senior Member
Here's a folder of some quick and dirty tests.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/urr7t72g5lik2re/AADbL7_FeF-x98lng3x8gAWVa?dl=0

On all long notes, I'm using a breath controller for dynamics. Vibrato is on the wheel with CC1. Dynamics for short notes are CC1 controlled.

Onboard reverb and fp hall setting are both off. No additional anything. I just turned up each Kontakt instance from -6db to 0.

In the Harry Potter excerpt for full brass, I decided to give the three trombone parts to the cimbasso instead, so that could get some air time, and also because there are no solo trombones in the basic version.

The legato could be more agile in places, and I would love to not have to simulate re-tonguing with the breath controller. Those are really the only critiques I have at the moment. Exposed and unprocessed like this, I think it's holding up brilliantly.

I'll explore more later, and try some "flashier" parts.
They sound really good!
 

Karma

Spitfire Audio
Here's a folder of some quick and dirty tests.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/urr7t72g5lik2re/AADbL7_FeF-x98lng3x8gAWVa?dl=0

On all long notes, I'm using a breath controller for dynamics. Vibrato is on the wheel with CC1. Dynamics for short notes are CC1 controlled.

Onboard reverb and fp hall setting are both off. No additional anything. I just turned up each Kontakt instance from -6db to 0.

In the Harry Potter excerpt for full brass, I decided to give the three trombone parts to the cimbasso instead, so that could get some air time, and also because there are no solo trombones in the basic version.

The legato could be more agile in places, and I would love to not have to simulate re-tonguing with the breath controller. Those are really the only critiques I have at the moment. Exposed and unprocessed like this, I think it's holding up brilliantly.

I'll explore more later, and try some "flashier" parts.
Ha, the first thing I did was play Apollo 13 too.
 

emasters

Active Member
Bought it but the download is ssssllllooowwww.... Spitfire is very professional in most aspects of their business. Download speeds sadly are not (at least where I'm located). That said, it should complete downloading after 8 to 10 hours using 5 percent of my available bandwidth. And then at that point, can give it a try. Looks great for my needs.
 
Bought it but the download is ssssllllooowwww.... Spitfire is very professional in most aspects of their business. Download speeds sadly are not (at least where I'm located). That said, it should complete downloading after 8 to 10 hours using 5 percent of my available bandwidth. And then at that point, can give it a try. Looks great for my needs.
It's definitely slow. It took me about seven hours (for the Professional version) hovering around 42Mbps the whole time. My regular download speeds are usually closer to 200Mbps.
 

NoamL

Winter <3
Paul's seems to be an answer to anyone wondering if this can handle "that style." It meshes really well with what I assume is the BHT percussion, and maybe some Studio Woodwinds, too?

And it sounds like Homay's been listening to some John Adams!
So I wasn't alone in thinking that was super influenced by Harmonielehre ;)

nice demos btw!
 

miket

Senior Member
Thanks Noam!

Actually, even before I heard Homay's demo, I was thinking that "Short Ride in a Fast Machine" would be interesting to tackle with this. I'm going to try a few bars now, but that's a tough one to count.
 

stonzthro

Senior Member
I love Spitfire and have almost all their libraries, but the repeated staccatos just don't sound very realistic to me at all. Am I missing something?
 

miket

Senior Member
I love Spitfire and have almost all their libraries, but the repeated staccatos just don't sound very realistic to me at all. Am I missing something?
There's also a multitongue articulation for most instruments, which will always sound better than trying to get there with repeated short notes. I haven't played with them yet, though. Lots to figure out just in the default NKI's.

Added a little John Adams, this time with more of a concert hall setting. These are just the legatos. Solo horn + horns a 4, solo trumpet (with a slight 1st chair vibrato) + trumpets a 2, and the cimbasso and tuba in octaves (the cimbasso again subbing in for a solo trombone).


Out of the box, this is definitely *studio* brass. I think you get a fair amount of flexibility with just Tree 1, but I'm beginning to think the other mics in the Pro editions are going to be essential for me sooner rather than later. Especially the outriggers, if BHT is any indication.
 
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miket

Senior Member
If you're talking about mine, I would not judge any library based on what someone has thrown together with it during free moments, and not having owned it for even half a day yet.

Just thought it would be nice to have some examples of one person's attempt to give it good, idiomatic music to play, without any bells or whistles or processing.
 

AlexanderSchiborr

Senior Member
Maybe I'm listening to classical music too much, but all those demos sound so "samply" to me. But maybe it's just the execution and the library is capable of sounding more organic.
For me too. The samples tone are nice but its like what I said about that in the other thread imo its not possible to create cohesive lines. Sample Modeling and Ibrass maybe not the king in tone, but they are imo when it comes to create fluid lines with expression better than any other brass libraries. I did some days ago a quick test for the indy fanfare with sm, just for comparison.
 

Hanu_H

Senior Member
miket's IS better ;)
The SM version sounds a lot more realistic than the SSB. The lenght of the notes and how they connect doesn't sound realistic at all. It has ok sound but definitely CineBrass sounds better in lines like this. The legatos in Miket's examples don't work for me either and shorts sound a bit robotic. Only thing I really like about SSB, are the dynamics. And the drier sound.

-Hannes
 

Casiquire

Senior Member
The SM version sounds a lot more realistic than the SSB. The lenght of the notes and how they connect doesn't sound realistic at all. It has ok sound but definitely CineBrass sounds better in lines like this. The legatos in Miket's examples don't work for me either and shorts sound a bit robotic. Only thing I really like about SSB, are the dynamics. And the drier sound.

-Hannes
You know, I agree. The Spitfire version had a better "sound" but the SM does have a more realistic feel
 
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