Spitfire Bespoke private range libraries

BenG

Senior Member
For those who are interested in hearing the sound of some patches from the bespoke range, I found in the dark corners of one of my hard drives some audio tests Spitfire Audio posted a long time ago on their old blog (their ancient website). Sadly I lost the strings examples but I still have two solo trumpet examples, a solo flute example and a solo oboe example.

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Geez, this is such a blast from the past! Remember hearing these years ago, thanks for sharing!!!
 

barteredbride

Hello and hola...a Brit in Spain
For those who are interested in hearing the sound of some patches from the bespoke range, I found in the dark corners of one of my hard drives...
But in seriousness, many thanks modiel for taking the time to find these and upload them.
 

AlexanderSchiborr

Senior Member
For those who are interested in hearing the sound of some patches from the bespoke range, I found in the dark corners of one of my hard drives some audio tests Spitfire Audio posted a long time ago on their old blog (their ancient website). Sadly I lost the strings examples but I still have two solo trumpet examples, a solo flute example and a solo oboe example.

[AUDIOPLUS=https://vi-control.net/community/attachments/sfoboeleg2-mp3.20017/][/AUDIOPLUS]

[AUDIOPLUS=https://vi-control.net/community/attachments/sf_bond-mp3.20018/][/AUDIOPLUS]

[AUDIOPLUS=https://vi-control.net/community/attachments/sf_trumpet3_wip-mp3.20019/][/AUDIOPLUS]

[AUDIOPLUS=https://vi-control.net/community/attachments/sf_flute_prokofiev-mp3.20020/][/AUDIOPLUS]
I am sorry, I appreciate the fact you grab those old examples for demonstration and maybe my ears are totally impaired by the long working day in the studio but if that are "sampled" patches from the that bespoke ranges I am the great cornholio and need some tp for my bungholio.

For me all of those examples sound like short live performance snippets and not like patches from a sample library at all. If that are the patches then spitfire definitely did something completely right there in every aspect, but totally wrong with many if not all of their releases after that particular bespoke range release. Correct me if I am totally wrong.
 

Scamper

Sample Hooter
For me all of those examples sound like short live performance snippets and not like patches from a sample library at all.
Yeah, I mean at the end of the Bond example, you can hear them laughing, so it seems much like a live performance. Maybe this was just meant to show the sound of the room and setup.
 

modiel

New Member
For me all of those examples sound like short live performance snippets and not like patches from a sample library at all (...) Correct me if I am totally wrong.
I really think these are from the bespoke range, and are not live performances. That's how they presented it in their blog years ago actually.

Maybe @paulthomson could confirm this ?

It's too bad I lost the strings examples because it was way more obvious on these files, and we were able to hear way more it's samples. About the laugh at the end of one of the trumpet examples, I guess they just added a laugh recorded during the sessions to make it sound more in context and like a real performance. Also you can hear on the oboe file a crossfade between the layers around 00:03 - 00:04.

On the second trumpet example, not the Bond one, you also can hear the staccato sample at the end of the up run playing a bit at the same time as the arrival note (the repetitions). It's around 00:26-00:27
 
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AllanH

Senior Member
The "Bond trumpet" is really quite a bit more alive than anything I can do with my sample libraries.
 

clisma

Active Member
These are very good but unless someone can prove it, I remain convinced of their sampled nature. The Oboe for one while stunning, performs with much the same dynamic range throughout the example. And I think a real player would take an extra breath in some of those spots.

The trumpet sounds great again, but some of the transitions seem exaggerated in the first example, and repetitive. Not usually the way a live player would play.
 

Ollie

Member
I really think these are from the bespoke range, and are not live performances. That's how they presented it in their blog years ago actually.

Maybe @paulthomson could confirm this ?

It's too bad I lost the strings examples because it was way more obvious on these files, and we were able to hear way more it's samples. About the laugh at the end of one of the trumpet examples, I guess they just added a laugh recorded during the sessions to make it sound more in context and like a real performance. Also you can hear on the oboe file a crossfade between the layers around 00:03 - 00:04.

On the second trumpet example, not the Bond one, you also can hear the staccato sample at the end of the up run playing a bit at the same time as the arrival note (the repetitions). It's around 00:26-00:27
you can hear some old demos here: https://web.archive.org/web/20121013141634/http://www.spitfireaudio.com/demos
 

erica-grace

Senior Member
For those who are interested in hearing the sound of some patches from the bespoke range, I found in the dark corners of one of my hard drives some audio tests Spitfire Audio posted a long time ago on their old blog (their ancient website). Sadly I lost the strings examples but I still have two solo trumpet examples, a solo flute example and a solo oboe example.
WOW - those sound great!

Maybe you can answer Alexander's question, and speak to whether or not those are all individual samples, or if there are any performances in there?

ooh - nevermind - I see you already addressed this.
 
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remark39

New Member
Just went back and listened to those old Bespoke demos...they're as I remember from way back in the day. Just so FULL of life. Maybe it's the rawness and "mistakes" that give them that feeling of being alive. To my ears, many of the new spitfire samples are missing this quality. Just look at how Albion One turned out...the original Albion definitely is superior. No judgment whatsoever...the spitfire guys are brilliant. But I think this may be the thing we've all experienced before in the studio. Sometimes there is MAGIC that happens on the first take that can't be replicated, no matter how many times you try it again.
 

BenG

Senior Member
Maybe it's the rawness and "mistakes" that give them that feeling of being alive.
This.

To be honest, I much prefer their older libraries and Labs stuff where there is so much natural energy. Things haven't have the musicianship polished out of them, so to speak. For this reason, I usually don't update my libraries...

Note to developers, leave the rawness baked-in!
 
The libraries today sound the way they do because they gave the public what they demanded.
Sanitized nearly perfect performances.
Yes, the early releases sounded great. They had a lot of life and spirit to them. With small glimpses of the humans behind the sound.
 

Stringtree

Active Member
This was like looking at old family photo albums, especially what Paul Thomson wrote. What a privilege to perch on the edge of a chair and sip something and listen to all these cool pioneers talk about the reality that I never thought I'd get to know anything about.

This whole thing gave me goosebumps. The makers, the composers, the beautiful examples frozen in time.

Imperfections, yeah, but spirit.

I love this stuff.

Greg