Spitfire Appreciation Thread

Discussion in 'SAMPLE Talk' started by KallumS, May 10, 2019.

  1. Tice

    Tice Active Member

    Jun 10, 2018
    Oh hell yeah! And while we're at it, a Berlioz and Wagner one too! I'm talking the super enormous Berlioz setups!
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  2. Thought I'd chime in - I started with Spitfire way back during the pre-release of Sable. Since then, I've invested a lot in their libraries. I love the consistency and the quality of their products.
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  3. michelsimons

    michelsimons Active Member

    Jan 24, 2018
    OAE is probably the library I used the most these last couple of years. Mind you, I haven't been overly productive recently, but still... And Enigma (I) is one that I managed to put to some good (or decent, in most people's perspective) use a couple of times. It's great for the more subtle additions to a song.
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  4. sekkosiki

    sekkosiki Senior Member

    Jan 14, 2014
    I have Mural from their BML series, and I quite liked that series, because it was something really magical. I know it was transformed to Symphonic Strings ages ago. Tundra on the other hand is quite wonderful.
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  5. Dr.Quest

    Dr.Quest Senior Member

    I've been saying this for years. Samples have strengths and weaknesses.Use them best for their strengths and figure clever ways to turn weakness to an advantage.
    I have always admired the vision of Spitfire as a company.
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  6. visiblenoise

    visiblenoise New Member

    Apr 3, 2019
    I just bought Albion One and the core Studio Orchestra, mostly because of the sale going on, but also because all of the educational, entertaining, and honest videos Christian and Spitfire Audio put out made me feel comfortable buying them without having done extensive shopping and comparing. On top of there being no question about their products being good enough for a beginner like me, I felt happy to support them.
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  7. star.keys

    star.keys Active Member

    May 7, 2012
    I’m a big fan of Spitfire’s SCS. For symphony orchestra needs, I have migrated over to OT.
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  8. NoamL

    NoamL Winter <3

    Jul 6, 2015
    Los Angeles
    Iceni Low Winds. Still 6 years later nobody has sampled anything like this. I don't even think there are any bass oboe samples out there.
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  9. Parsifal666

    Parsifal666 I don't even own a DAW, I'm just a troll.

    Sep 7, 2015
    E. YeeHaw, Indiana
    Amazing library.
  10. Garry

    Garry Senior Member

    Dec 28, 2017
    Spitfire make some great libraries, no doubt, but they're certainly not alone in that. I own some great libraries from several companies, all of which I enjoy and appreciate. However, Spitfire do, to me at least, seem somehow different from the rest. It's a company that is so open and transparent, I feel like I know them personally, and support what they're doing, though I've never met any of them. To illustrate, ask yourself these questions about your favorite developers - I've answered below in relation to Spitfire, and could answer SOME questions positively for most companies, but I wouldn't be able to answer ALL questions for any other company:

    - how many companies could you name the co-founders for? (Christian, Paul)
    - how many could you name the sound engineer? (Jake Jackson)
    - how many could you name the lead musicians for? (Oliver, Homay)
    - how many could you name >1 support desk person for? (Ben, Jack)
    - how many do you know that used to take charity donations, and now just pay it themselves?
    - how many have free instrument giveaways, and you could genuinely produce decent music using only these instruments? (LABS)
    - how many have produced libraries in collaboration with numerous artists you genuinely admire outside of samples (Eric Whitacre, Hans Zimmer, Olafur Arnolds)
    - how many have developed a separate community-based sample library, that is made freely available to the public? (PianoBook)
    - how many have a whole series of videos, with insights into studies, artists, and techniques? (Creative Cribs, 1-1 Interviews, Quick Tips)
    - how many developers are active composers as well as sample developers? (Paul, Christian)
    - how many have interesting competitions in which they give away their products (Apex; Christmas tombola)
    - how many developers do you know who gave away their Mac to someone on Twitter (Christian)
    - how many developers show you ways to develop music that could entirely negate their own company's profits? (Modular Mondays)
    - how many have developed a separate vlog, only semi-related to the main company, and is not about selling more products, but mainly about supporting composers, and the issues they face? (Christian)
    - how many developers arrange an impromptu meetup, go for a nice walk and a chat, film it so everyone can feel some level of participation, and then he pays for the beers in the pub? (Christian)
    - how many could you answer positively for ALL of the above? (Me... just 1 - Spitfire!)
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  11. Akarin

    Akarin pragsound.com

    Jan 14, 2018
    Layering Studio Strings over Albion One. Definition and large sound. Love it.
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  12. ism

    ism Senior Member

    Dec 14, 2016
    Don’t forget Sandy.
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  13. ism

    ism Senior Member

    Dec 14, 2016
    Alex over at Vir Harmonic is pretty good also.
  14. Garry

    Garry Senior Member

    Dec 28, 2017
    Ah yes, of course, Sandy! :)

    So, why are all those questions important? Because, when we're buying digital instruments, across an anonymous, digital platform, it can be a cold dispassionate exchange, and so feeling some shared existence and shared enjoyment, is an important part of the process. Isn't that what an important part of this forum itself is too? When I can answer positively to all those questions, it indicates a company that has an ethos I can feel a kinship with, and feel I want to support. Would I still buy from them if their products were crap? No! The quality still has to be there of course. But in terms of differentiation, I'm not sure any company pays as much attention to things like this, and I for one, appreciate it.
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  15. robgb

    robgb I was young once

    Apr 6, 2016
    Well, I just pulled the trigger on the Studio Strings in my wish list and I have to say they're pretty wonderful.
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  16. Parsifal666

    Parsifal666 I don't even own a DAW, I'm just a troll.

    Sep 7, 2015
    E. YeeHaw, Indiana
    That's the only one I passed on from the series, (I have sooo many string libraries). But I'd love to hear your thoughts on this one please.
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  17. Denkii

    Denkii Member

    Mar 15, 2019
    It's called marketing and it works for a reason if done right. If it wouldn't help pay the bills and they relied on still paying the bills somehow, they would do something else.
    They have the freedom to be like this because it works. It's not a one way road.
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  18. BlackDorito

    BlackDorito Member

    Oct 16, 2017
    Cinematic Studio can be responsive as well. Indeed, various developers show a customer-focus that is to be commended (and a few don't). Where Spitfire stands apart with all their outreach is to usher us all into this world of film/media production, for which they have more experience than most of us. Of course it is good for them - the overall effect is "We're your friends and we know this industry well .. and just listen to this excellent demo of this library" ... and lots of us are clicking on "Add to Cart". In doing so, they are expanding this world. I have no regrets - they seem authentic and generous and I have learned a lot.
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  19. Garry

    Garry Senior Member

    Dec 28, 2017
    Well, you can call it marketing if you like, but I think that's a little cynical. Let me give you an example: Christian noticed that throwing an object across a frozen lake created an interesting noise. So, he got up at 3am so that he could capture the sound in complete silence, and because temperature affects the pitch, and recorded it. Then, back at his home studio, he crafted this recording into a virtual instrument, which he made freely available, and walked the audience through how to do this in EXS - watch it here. He then made this available as a free instrument. Note: that's a leading sample developer, teaching people how to make their own samples (literally, here's which buttons to press in Logic). Now, you can call that marketing if you want to, but I think you'd have to question every benevolent act that people do, and assume an ulterior motive. Even if you're right, and that's all marketing, well, it still something we benefit from directly, whether or not we choose to buy more software from them. I think at some point, its more parsimonious to just say this is a decent guy, who likes to give back to the community that has given him a good opportunity in life.
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  20. Denkii

    Denkii Member

    Mar 15, 2019
    I never said it's all marketing solemnly for the purpose of marketing. All I'm saying is they are their own influencers which is super smart but obviously it works for a reason (they are good at what they are doing and they probably enjoy their work as much as they convey it). I'm just saying they ain't Samaritans and that I take a more distant approach. I can still appreciate everything they do.

    The freedom for them to be like this is something that has a price though and is one of the factors why not everyone can be like this even if they wanted to.

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