Something is Coming - Spitfire Thunderbolt

Discussion in 'SAMPLE Talk' started by Zoot_Rollo, Feb 10, 2019.

  1. hansandersen

    hansandersen Senior Member

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    Should I get SPR? I really want a decent percussion library. I'll be using it for the generic orchestral music but also the big epic style...
     
  2. ism

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    The caveat is that I don’t think any sampled solo string can really do Vivaldi or Beethoven quartets remotely convincingly - Sacconi is probably your best bet for that style. If innovation in solo sting sampling continues as spectacularly as we’be seen in the last few year, then maybe in 10-20 years a convincing Vivaldi mock up will be possible.

    That said, AltSS is a beautiful library, but note that the legato is very limited. Check the Andy Blakey demos, which I think show its strengths very nicely, but I think also push the legato as far as it can be pushed. In practice, I tend to think of this as more of a texture library. The legato (Vl And Vc only) is nice to have, but I’ve never found it useful except in context of doubling or something. If classical expressive range in the legatos is what you’re most looking for I’d seriously look to something like Sacconi.

    And yes, all the vibrato is baked in progressive vibrato.

    Spitfire’s main solo strings, in comparison, have much more sophisticated legatos in comparison - though still not really geared towards full on classical string quartets. But it’s probably 2 generations of legato technology ahead of the AltSS, with a fantastic expressive range in what you can do with the legatos. But with the exception of the Vl, still not in the league of Sacconi for Vivaldi-esque expressiveness - though far ahead of Sacconi (and everything else I know of) within the range of the kind of expressiveness it does do well.

    That said, for what it does - crazily beautiful solo string textures, AltSS is completely unbeatable.
     
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  3. miket

    miket Team Dany

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    I've used the Alternative cello legato in a fairly lyrical role a few times. No, it's not what it's primarily intended for, but I think it holds up really well. Soft velocities get you a progressive vibrato, higher velocities are a more immediate one.
     
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  4. erica-grace

    erica-grace Senior Member

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    I feel the same. A bit of a let down.

    Great products, but their marketing campaigns more often than not leave a lot to be desired.
     
  5. Bill the Lesser

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    That is one wonderful, rambling piece! Really quite inventive. It answers the question: what the heck can you do with a bunch of oddball strings? That sound would brighten up ensembles of any kind, I think. Now I have to pick it up, Spitfire owes you one. Sorry to drift OT, but just had to say congratulations!

    (ASS and Woodwinds, all in the same week...ouch!)
     
  6. Brian Nowak

    Brian Nowak Active Member

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    I didn't see anything in there I absolutely need. I would consider their orchestral percussion but already have OT Berlin Percussion. But a few of the pieces in Berlin are pretty bad (Celeste has truly terrible noise and some weird sample behavior as well as no spot or close mic, for example).

    Had HZ Perc Pro been in there I would have been in more trouble. I should probably just wait and get Cineperc next time there's a big sale.
     
  7. muziksculp

    muziksculp Senior Member

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    Hi,

    BDT at $119. is a bit tempting now. I wasn't sure I will use this library a lot when it was first released, but I'm re-evaluating it, especially at this price.

    Any BDT users feedback on how useful it has been, or any other comments about it would be cool, and helpful.

    Thanks,
    Muziksculp
     
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  8. sostenuto

    sostenuto Taking SKYPE Lessons !!

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    Wondering similar thing re. Joby Burgess Percussion … now using LADD & NI_Symphony Essentials Perc.

    Non-percussionst and always interested in libs to help me create / improve.

    Just a few salient features may well be worth $239.
     
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  9. Bill the Lesser

    Bill the Lesser Active Member

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    For heavy discounts, I can forgive a lot of things... ;)
     
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  10. BeneJ

    BeneJ New Member

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    British Drama seems like another version of Swarm, ie for long textures not melodies? Seems like it would layer up with Swarm comfortably.

    Apart from the walkthrough highlighting the extent to which British Drama doesn’t handle legato lines, thus making its strong velocity layer sound incongruent, can anyone comment on British Drama (alongside Swarm or otherwise)?
     
  11. Bill the Lesser

    Bill the Lesser Active Member

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    If I had to choose between LCOS and ASS, it would be ASS every time! (Don't get me wrong here). Alternative will probably become my most used string library, since it offers most of the standard patches in fairly "normal" and very playable form...but with an attitude! LCOS has mostly far more "specialized" patches that are best used in pieces that are overtly bleeding edge, and perhaps not too consonant.
     
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  12. Rap-sody

    Rap-sody Music... again and again

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    Thunderbolt, zip, a big hole in the wallet...
     
  13. gussunkri

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    I do not need these libraries, but the demo tracks of ASS really move me. Christian, Homay and Oliver sure makes that library sound great!
     
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  14. Bill the Lesser

    Bill the Lesser Active Member

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    I was very surprised how good this package sounds! Been tripping out for the last 1/2 hour just playing all the sections ensemble style. Terrific sound, incredibly expressive! Nothing sterile about it, it's the genuine thing, that's how it feels. Very organic. Sounds like I'm there in a smallish space with the players. This would be the goto instrument for many types of closeup, dramatic cues.
     
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  15. emasters

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    Completed the Thunderbolt bundle with 50% off the percussion library - thanks Spitfire! And in the past I've whined about slow Spitfire download speeds. I was pleasantly surprised today to get a reasonably fast download - very much appreciated.
     
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  16. Bill the Lesser

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    BDT is reserved, maybe somewhat distant, and best used for underscore that never heats up very much. It's a rather dispassionate, objective observer of the story. ASS is in-your-face, highly emotional, dramatic, almost rudely personal, and...the list goes on. It demands attention. It's wonderful. Swarm is in a different space altogether, I don't think of it as optional or especially complementray to either ASS of BDT.
     
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  17. sostenuto

    sostenuto Taking SKYPE Lessons !!

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    Good to hear. May be a budget buster, with Studio WW /Orchestra this Thurs.
    Trusting AltSS will still be a solid add now …… :cautious:
     
  18. MaxOctane

    MaxOctane Active Member

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    Can you post some quick examples?
     
  19. BeneJ

    BeneJ New Member

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    Reserved, distant and cold - sounds like the British to me! I have Swarm and Alternative Scoring Strings too - I think they’re all recorded in the same dry studio. I’m going to add BDT to the line up and find a way to make them fit (just like the British).
     
  20. muziksculp

    muziksculp Senior Member

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    Aha... Now you just gave me a good dose of GAS for ASS :)

    Seriously, I'm now very interested, and most likely will buy it at $179.

    UPDATE : Purchased

    Thanks,
    Muziksculp
     
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