Thanks for your comment. I'm really considering Sample modelling. It's not too expensive and sound quite well....Sample Modelling will probably offer the most versatility in playback, though the sound may leave something to be desired and require lots of 'mixing.'
Spitfire Audio, for both their brass libraries, sample an Eb bass and a CC contrabass. The Eb comes with legato and mutes too. Lots of articulations and lots of samples from Spitfire but playing them won't be as simple as Sample Modelling. However, there's Cimbassi in the Spitfire stuff too! That may interest the Tubist in you if you know what they are
Sorry to hear about your health. I've been having trouble with mine too, as a Bass Trombone player I can sympathize how it feels being unable to play your horn... I've got some nasty chronic acid reflux and have been getting abdominal pains when holding anything heavy for more than a minute, so playing a heavy instrument is a no-go until I get my condition diagnosed and sorted.
Best of luck to you!
Oh thanks for this contribution @Saxer ! It's really helpful.I don't know if you health problems would allow to use a breath controller. If so I would highly recommend the TEControl and either Samplemodeling or WIVI (or maybe the cheaper WIVI Band) from Wallanderinstruments. The tuba in WIVI sounds convincing and is very playable via breath controller. It would also be the most natural feel to control an wind instrument via breath.
I added a small noodling example with my WX7 wind controller: First 24 seconds are Wivi, second half is Samplemodeling.
You're perfectly right when you said that for a beginner, that's quite tough to start a good template... And with the fact the tuba and the horn have to be separated from your common template. Both are conical instruments, which means a colorful sound but also much more problems when have to sample them.It's interesting, that Tuba and Horn are the two instruments where I diverge from a "common template" (which usually is VSL-based) and have to pick for each song. This past week, I did more research into the history of the tuba and the libraries I own, thinking maybe they had made different choices, but they all seem to have sampled a Bass Tuba in F.
I tend to use Sample Modeling's Tuba a lot even in classical contexts, but also VSL, the new Spitfire Studio Brass, and increasingly a bit of Chris Hein as well. The same goes for Horn.
Sample Modeling is a great way to start, on almost any piece, as it interprets your phrasing to decide the articulations, and as the tuba is "slow to speak" it also seems to give a very realistic image of the attack of the instrument.
I'm really happy with all of the above choices. Horn is a little trickier because VSL's can sometimes be too tame, but I don't find quite as much timbral differentiation between the Tuba sources, and of course some of those also offer Contrabass Tuba, which sometimes is necessary for the range or for heft.
If I'm working with more of the upper range of the Tuba, or Tuba is substituting for bass due to the era or the genre, I find the Sample Modeling is usually the one whose attack, sustain, and timbre fit in the best.
Note that the Chris Hein library I am talking about for Tuba is the Horns Pro package that is meant for jazz and almost anything other than classical symphonic work, but I find that whole package amazingly versatile, and often use it over the orchestral libraries. They're both great though.
There's also the Alpine Folkmusic library from best Service.
Really though, if you are just starting to build your high-end library, you can't go wrong with Sample Modeling as you get both Tuba and Horn in one package, and way more so than the other instruments in this series, they apply well across almost every genre as they have a convincing timbre for classical as well as jazz, pop, etc.
Oh great! I am really excited about that!I keep forgetting I own WIVI. I tend to buy modeling based software because I'm a mathematician and I will always be intrigued by what progress is made in this arena. But more often than not, I gravitate back towards VSL and the like, and just put in the time. Anyway, I had forgotten that WIVI covers the Tuba, so should remember to load that up this weekend and see if I can offer a recommendation or not.