Soaring on the Rays of Infinity

Discussion in 'Member's Compositions' started by AlexanderSchiborr, Jan 20, 2019.

  1. AlexanderSchiborr

    AlexanderSchiborr Senior Member

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    Another exercises done recently. Any suggestions / feedback is welcome.


    Special Thanks to @DMDComposer

    update 18/02/19, entire piece:

     
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  2. novaburst

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    Hope to hear the completion it's really going well and a nice story going on there, very dramatic and full of flavour so really look forward to hear the end
     
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    Hey man,
    Sure, I will keep you informed. Thanks for the feedback.
     
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    Nice work again @AlexanderSchiborr the brass is the star of the show you made them work well even in the quiet section, they really sang, the piece had a lot of variation but the whole piece was glued together, the mixing is nice I do feel you was being a touch careful with the volume would have liked it to be a little louder, but I guess we can use the volume knob.

    Really great stuff, writing you got going on there nice work.
     
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    I am and was never a big fan of using gain compressing for such music and even this template has a slight compression going on but very settle to maintain the quiter sections. My references are old recordings from the 40s and 60s. Actually the Vari Mu serving here as the compressor is just to to add a bit glue and thats it. As you said: use the volume knob and turn it up. I am pretty sure a modern approach to mastering such a track would be to make it louder but it would imo destroy impact of when the orchestra goes FF.

    However as this is a longer term project, I am not done with the composition, maybe in some months because I am learning stuff and try to apply more techniques which I am just learning with my friend Dillon. Thanks for the comment.
     
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    can't give detailed feedback as im not on that level yet (compositionally), but man, keep it up, that was a wonderful piece of music!
     
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    Well the piece is a joy to listen to
     
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    Hey novaburst,
    just to read that is a motivation to post it here. Thanks a lot, man.
     
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  11. whiskers

    whiskers Perpetual student

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    Dat brass...

    Sounds amazing
     
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    Can't comment compositionally, because I could never write this. But I will say, this is excellent. Really really enjoyed it. Spitfire brass?
     
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    Just found this thread... ha, great music! I love the vintage vibe and sound! Strings are still kind of pumping but I know that's part of your final cleaning process. I adore your ability to create this Hollywoodish textures with perc/woods/harp/pno. Looking forward how this track develops! It's really fun to follow your WIP!
     
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    I like it. Don’t stop. It’s progressing really well. I see a lot of Spielberg movie snippets in my head. :)
     
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    No, it is sample modeling mixed with a bit infinite brass for the most time and I would say the main frame. I added also here and there some horns from csb and caspian, though once I have improved the timbre and eq curves of my modeled horns I will kick them out. CB Tuba is from Spitfire.

    I read a few times that people feel not to comment on the composition. Don´t be shy guys, this stuff I write is no nuclear science. Imo you can comment everywhere you like to, you don´t need to be able to write in that idiom like that in order to have an eligable opinion on the music. I often ask my wife about an opinion on my music and she often gives me very good feedback from a typical audience which is very valuable imo.
     
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    Thanks my friend. Any tips for avoiding bumps? I guess you are talking about the transitions also. I hate that bumpiness with a passion. Sometimes I find out that scripted legato works a way better. Let me know.
     
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    Great writing Alexander! I really enjoy your orchestration as well as hearing the piano sketch section which I assume will be orchestrated? Some sections such as 28s ~ sound like the orchestration could be filled in a bit more (right now sounds a little like a sketch with ensemble patches rather than a complete orch). Are you playing the piano sketch in real time? The piano sketch sounds like its quite challenging to play in spots. Keep at it! Its exciting to hear such WIP.

    I think some of the "bumps" might be easily filled in with mixing the right amount of reverb as its a bit dry right now. Though it could be expression that is pumping (if you're riding the mod wheel). In any case, the least of your worries. Keep focusing on the writing man.
     
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    Very good suggestions very kind of you. I will look at that spot at 28 seconds. I guess the thing is: Right before it is that big that its hard to make it bigger..so it feels therefore a bit thin..though in reality it isnt when you look closely at the orchestration which is a typical ET Flying orchestration device where you have 3 octave string with high winds stack with trombones due the harmonic glue and low brass and strings the bass while piano, harp and celesta doing an ornamental arrpeggiated thing creating forward motion. The piano part isn´t orchestrated yet and has to be rewritten because I simply repeated the fanfare later as this is utterly lazy indeed I need to bring a new touch to it and break it off, therefore applying certain development techniques. I will hand over the piano draft later on. Its not that easy for me to play, so I performed everything in little chunks..with corrections..
     
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  20. synergy543

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    Yes, I understand the problem, though I'm not qualified to give you the best solution (Maybe Doug or Mike could advise?). The best I can think would be possibly adding some light horn staccatos underneath to fill it out? In any case, its not about making it sound "bigger" but just more "complete" in terms of orchestration. I'm just copying some orchestration now to learn this type of stuff, though your approach just using it on your own composition seems better. Cheers.
     

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