So I'm sick of reloading sample libraries - is Vienna Ensemble Pro the only solution?

x-dfo

Active Member
As my subject say some of my learning projects are hitting 10 minute load times with the libraries I'm using and it's starting to grate.
I have money to spend (and a need to keep myself entertained with the quarantine) so what are some of the better solutions out there?
I have my work pc at home so I thought I would try setting up a VST host thing, but is VEP the only good solution for this?

Cheers,
 

Rob

Senior Member
If you don't need network connectivity, any host could do... but I don't know what's around, solid and reliable.
 

josejherring

Senior Member
As my subject say some of my learning projects are hitting 10 minute load times with the libraries I'm using and it's starting to grate.
I have money to spend (and a need to keep myself entertained with the quarantine) so what are some of the better solutions out there?
I have my work pc at home so I thought I would try setting up a VST host thing, but is VEP the only good solution for this?

Cheers,
I went through the same thing. Looking for a different solution. I came to the conclusion, that VEPro is the best.

You could as Rob suggest do it the old fashion way but it's a real pain and I don't want to go back to dealing with Ethernet Midi and Adat cables again.

OhWow! As I was writing this though I had a thought. You could use any VST host and install Dante Virtual soundcard. Holy crap! I just solved my own problem.

 

d.healey

Music Monkey
Carla, Bidule, Reaper can all be used as plugin hosts. If you already use Reaper as a DAW you'll need to use the portable version as the host.
 
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x-dfo

Active Member
Carla, Bidule, Reaper can all be used as plugin hosts. If you already use Reaper as a DAW you'll need to use the portable version as the host.
Is reaMote the only one that can handle LAN connections, out of the ones you mentioned?
 

Wolfie2112

Senior Member
As my subject say some of my learning projects are hitting 10 minute load times with the libraries I'm using and it's starting to grate.
If you are switching between projects a lot, then VEPro is your best bet, as everything remains loaded. However, if you are referring to load times in general, VEPro won't help.
 

averystemmler

Active Member
I went through the same thing. Looking for a different solution. I came to the conclusion, that VEPro is the best.

You could as Rob suggest do it the old fashion way but it's a real pain and I don't want to go back to dealing with Ethernet Midi and Adat cables again.

OhWow! As I was writing this though I had a thought. You could use any VST host and install Dante Virtual soundcard. Holy crap! I just solved my own problem.

I was looking into this a couple weeks ago. Dante Virtual Soundcard (DVS) requires either Dante hardware - or a separate, dedicated machine running Dante Via - to act as a master clock. You can't just Virtual Soundcard two systems together, sadly.

Virtual Soundcard is machine licensed, with no way to transfer. Via does allow a transfer, but requires that machine to be online for periodic phone-home license checks (and gives you fewer outputs than DVS). I was hoping for a less restrictive licensing scheme using Plogue Bidule as a host, but getting a bunch of audio channels out over ethernet seems to be the limiting factor.

The Dante systems don't handle latency automatically in the way VEP does, but they are apparently quite stable. If not for the license restrictions, I think I'd give them a go.
 

d.healey

Music Monkey
Is reaMote the only one that can handle LAN connections, out of the ones you mentioned?
I'm not sure as I've not used any of them over LAN. Theoretically you should be able to send any MIDI/audio data over LAN with virtual ports but I don't know what software exists to facilitate this.
 
I went through the same thing. Looking for a different solution. I came to the conclusion, that VEPro is the best.

You could as Rob suggest do it the old fashion way but it's a real pain and I don't want to go back to dealing with Ethernet Midi and Adat cables again.

OhWow! As I was writing this though I had a thought. You could use any VST host and install Dante Virtual soundcard. Holy crap! I just solved my own problem.

Dante VSC is a poor solution for real time operations due to the inherent latency.
 
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x-dfo

Active Member
So it looks like I only need one VEP license for each computer that hosts plugins and the client DAW computer(s) don't require it.