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SHREDDAGE 3 STRATUS - Now available from Impact Soundworks!!!

Vastman

we make the future
As we wait for final encoding by NI, we've been adding new demos every other day or so in a variety of styles, such as Henning Nugel's excellent "Chameleon Cure"!

Listening to the 6 soundcloud demos now...WoW! Hope u'll get the time to deconstruct these ...the midi and all...on YouTube, Andrew... they are truly amazing...i have NEVER GOTTEN CLOSE to these... but will study hard if you give us the education!

Thanks so look much. Am sooo excited by what I'm listening to!
 
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EvilDragon

KSP Wizard
with shreddage 2 you bought the license for all the sub-types when you bought shreddage 2
No, you didn't. IBZ and SRP (for example) were separate purchases to S2 standard. You could buy them "standalone" but that still included the S2 base license price in it. It's pretty much the same principle. You get one license that will support all the guitars to come.

For $20 crossgrade you get a greatly improved engine that does things S2 simply cannot do, and is also simpler to use overall... Not to mention there simply won't be any updates or bugfixes for S2 since we've moved on to version 3 of the engine.
 

amorphosynthesis

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No, you didn't. IBZ and SRP (for example) were separate purchases to S2 standard. You could buy them "standalone" but that still included the S2 base license price in it. It's pretty much the same principle. You get one license that will support all the guitars to come.
True...it's the exactly same principal,but it feels more confusing,at least to me-when you are trying to buy Shreddag3,the additional fee for the license pops up...plus 30$.Call me Mr Grumpy,but this is how I feel.

For $20 crossgrade you get a greatly improved engine that does things S2 simply cannot do, and is also simpler to use overall... Not to mention there simply won't be any updates or bugfixes for S2 since we've moved on to version 3 of the engine.
I could never have an opinion on that,since I couldn't have possibly compared the two engines...,but correct me if I am wrong,when you have all shreddage 2...(std,ibz and srp) you will need a 20 x 3=60 $, plus 30$ =90$(plus tax) for upgrade to S3.(Mr Grumpy all over)
Anyway to be honest,the engine looks tempting...
 
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zircon_st

zircon_st

Lead Developer
The idea was to make it less confusing, so I apologize if having a separate License product made it worse :D The problem before was that we constantly had people buying the wrong version of SRP or IBZ. Even with big bold text explaining that they need "Standalone" if they have no other S2 guitars.

So now, when getting an S3 guitar, an S3 license is automatically added to your cart if you need one, and never added if you don't. That seemed a more simple and elegant approach.

In any case, we feel like $20 as an upgrade from an S2 guitar to the S3 version of that same guitar is fair because this really isn't just a UI update. It's dramatically upgraded functionality. You're getting:

  • The complete Console rack, whereas S2 guitars have just a handful of fixed-order FX (with worse-sounding cabs and only 2 amps)
  • Way more realistic voicing for leads, chords, rhythm, etc.
  • More automatable controls, fretboard capo, hand position control
  • The Strumming feature
  • Completely flexible articulation mapping, as opposed to the limited options from before
  • 1-4x tracking within a single patch (as opposed to just single or double)
  • Full NKS compatibility
From our end it isn't as simple as just loading a new script either. It will involve manually re-creating the entire patch, possibly modifying recordings, tuning, sample offsets, etc. But I strongly believe it will be WELL worth it.
 

Rey

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can someone who have purchased it make a test walkthrough video on youtube of the built in "named" preset sounds from ISW in console. Solo melody or lead guitar playing would be nice.
 
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Rey

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Listening to the 6 soundcloud demos now...WoW! Hope u'll get the time to deconstruct these ...the midi and all...on YouTube, Andrew... they are truly amazing...i have NEVER GOTTEN CLOSE to these... but will study hard if you give us the education!

Thanks so look much. Am sooo excited by what I'm listening to!
Aquatic ambiance and Funkoland is my 2 favorites so far. I hope ISW deconstruct and share the presets of those 2 first :)
 

SoNowWhat?

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This is sounding very good. The chord strumming in particular. There are a few guitar VIs that can do a good job on a solo line (I have Shreddage 2 SRP and it's one of my preferred guitar VIs), but the strumming has always been difficult to get to sound right.

Console looks awesome.

Well done ISW team.
 
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Polkasound

Senior Member
In any case, we feel like $20 as an upgrade from an S2 guitar to the S3 version of that same guitar is fair because this really isn't just a UI update. It's dramatically upgraded functionality
Understood, but your best S2 customers (the ones who have purchased multiple guitars) will now need to pay the upgrade fee multiple times to use the same S3 engine they just bought for $30. You need to be compensated for the work you're doing to make S2 guitars work with S3, but it's my opinion that the upgrade fee from S2 to S3 should be a flat fee per customer/license, not per instrument.
 

neblix

Music, Math, Cats
Understood, but your best S2 customers (the ones who have purchased multiple guitars) will now need to pay the upgrade fee multiple times to use the same S3 engine they just bought for $30. You need to be compensated for the work you're doing to make S2 guitars work with S3, but it's my opinion that the upgrade fee from S2 to S3 should be a flat fee per customer/license, not per instrument.
Hi Polka,

I'm not sure if that's fair to say at all. A small pocket change upgrade fee is pretty fair, in my opinion, to cover the work needed to remap all of the samples, develop new graphics, set up the engines for each guitar, develop the snapshots, testing phase, Native Instruments encoding etc for each guitar. These things take some time. Of course we are currently still hashing out the exact tentative pricing.
 
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zircon_st

zircon_st

Lead Developer
Aquatic ambiance and Funkoland is my 2 favorites so far. I hope ISW deconstruct and share the presets of those 2 first :)
I dug into Funkoland a little bit in the 19 minute walkthrough video! Mainly how I did the strumming and the wakka-chikka stuff. More vids to come for sure.
 
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Polkasound

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I'm not sure if that's fair to say at all.
I'm not in any way diminishing the work needed to upgrade S2 guitars. I know it's a lot of time involved, and you should be fully compensated for that. All I'm saying is that if I were ISW, I would do it a little differently. I would not charge my best S2 customers $60 in "pocket change" to allow them to use the upgraded S3 engine with their three S2 purchases while charging other customers only $20 or $40 for their one or two S2 purchases. I would charge a flat fee of, for example, $40 per licensed customer to bring whatever S2 guitars they own over to the new S3 engine.

I understand that way of thinking may be a little confusing, but since we're talking about recouping the cost of labor and not replenishing physical goods, you could set a fixed price for the S2-to-S3 upgrade so that your top S2 customers will not have to pay 2X to 3X more than other S2 customers for the same benefit of using the S3 engine.

That's just my philosophy. But then, I also give my customers 30-days advance notice of upcoming sales, so I'm definitely not your typical developer. :)
 

Vastman

we make the future
Thanks Andrew & ED... instant buy! Am so excited by this and that all my other shredders will be more playable and useful soon... fantastic work by ALL!
 
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