Should Intel SSDs avoided looks like one model is cheaper than Samsung?

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  1. JPQ

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    Should Intel SSDs avoided looks like one model is cheaper than Samsung?
     
  2. JohnG

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    I use one of their Optane drives and it flies. Not a regular SSD but either way, haven't heard bad stuff about Intel. Could check reviews...
     
  3. Nick Batzdorf

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    Every model is cheaper than Samsung!
     
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    I try search reviews. and i ask here becouse there is people who understand music use with many tests dont count many tests are for graphics and reqular uses and gaming but not music.
     
  5. JohnG

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    the reviews are good for questions like reliability, stability.

    I have never used an SSD that did not perform well. The PCIe-based ones are the fastest but that is for other reasons. I have a collection -- OCZ, Intel, mostly Samsung.
     
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  6. jneebz

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    FWIW, I have two Intel 700 series enterprise SSDs and they are rock solid. Also, in general, Intel SSDs get good marks in tests/reliability.
     
  7. EvilDragon

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    SSDs or HDDs don't care about what type of work you're doing. They are just reading and writing data, and those figures are also tested. You will want the best possible IOPS and random reads figures possible for DFD streaming.
     
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    Reading tecnical data is not my best skill even i made programs. and if get enregy i do more.
     
  9. EvilDragon

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    It's simple. IOPS: larger = better. Random read figures: larger = better.
     
  10. Nick Batzdorf

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    Okay, but I - and apparently John - will argue that the specs are much ado about not much.

    We're just streaming samples!
     
  11. kitekrazy

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    Intel was my first SSD because they had a 5yr. warranty. Warranties are always a major factor for me.
     
  12. Nick Batzdorf

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    They are a good indication of the quality, but in my mind that only goes so far - i.e. a 10-year warranty isn't much better than a 5-year one, but a 3-year one is a lot better than a 1-year one.
     
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    Good point.
     
  14. Quasar

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    That's where I'm at with them. They're all fast enough, so I don't care about the benchmarks. I do care about reliability, as they're still pretty expensive for a product that might crap-out at any time. I've only had one SSD die on me, but unlike with HDDs where you might get warning signs, it was sudden and immediate, like a massive heart attack.

    I've had perfect luck with both Samsung and Crucial, so I stick to those.
     
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  15. EgM

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    I just buy what's on sale :P

    I have about 12 to 15 SSDs ranging from Crucial, Intel, Kingston and Samsung and none have died on me yet (according to S.M.A.R.T. status), and this from the last 5 years at least.

    If they die, I'll just dump them and get new ones. I do have a triple backup and gigabit fiber internet up and down, so I don't care.
     
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  16. kitekrazy

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    That's the thing about HDDs. Some of them will make noise when they are on their way out. I don't have bad luck with HDDs. I finally had a Seagate 500GB go bad after about 10 years.
     
  17. Quasar

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    Yup. HDDs make noise and often unpredictably mimic other sorts of configuration or hardware issues on their way out. If you get several different, seemingly unconnected issues all at once, this is often HDD failure. (It may pass SMART, but fail short DST or whatever.) But then you get time to deal with it. Not so with SSDs, which AFAIK die like USB flash storage drives do.

    Makes me hesitate to spend money on the uber-expensive larger ones, even if I have the money.

    EDIT: I avoid Seagate HDDs. It varies from model to model, but their failure rates tend to be much higher in studies, and anecdotally I've noticed this too. I go Hitachi and WD,
     
  18. EvilDragon

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    Yes, we're just streaming samples. Which is a read operation. Which means, you need to have high IOPS and high random read 4K speeds. Simples. :grin:
     
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  19. Nick Batzdorf

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    Is that because:

    1. You actually keep receipts and would try to get them to honour the warranty in event of failure, or

    2. You view the longer warranty as a signal of quality and reliability, as perceived by the manufacturer.
     

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