It's that RAM bit that I haven't been able to solve well and keeps me from embracing the Berlin series. Still, I was surprised to learn on that other thread you posted to that the BWW flute had a smaller RAM footprint than the SSW flute. Did I read you right there?neh, lass spiccatos are just noisy. Berlin strings spiccato exposed is a similiar(but vastly better sounding) version of the upper dynamics. Berlin string shorts are pretty darn tight in general too. Low menacing sustains works much better if you have access to the expansions and 98729872 gigs of ram.
I was surprised myself how close they are, out of the box - which ends up being like 458 mb for the default solo flute "multi" from SSW and the multi from BWW eats 720mb. Ofcourse different articulations - but ultimately BWW ends up being much higher in RR. Main difference is - that in order to achieve that sound, I needed all 3 microphones to get a good balanced tone from SSW and the mixed single mic from BWW needs next to 0 treatment out of the box, thus uses less ram. Thus the extra ram in that scenario was actually the SSW using more mics. Could have probably dropped a single mic off and blended just the close and tree from spitfire, but that puts the patch at 900mb. Sorry if I mislead you - haha. Basically - if your goal is to sound good, BWW legacy has a mixed mic that gets you like 95% of the way there, just a splash of m7 and you're golden. Spitfire's tree is too distant/dull to be used on it's own without getting buried, so you basically need to use close mics or you'll lose it in the mix, and if you use only close mics - you're not getting any of the room, which is the only reason to choose the sound of SSW(close mics aren't as clean/good as berlin)It's that RAM bit that I haven't been able to solve well and keeps me from embracing the Berlin series. Still, I was surprised to learn on that other thread you posted to that the BWW flute had a smaller RAM footprint than the SSW flute. Did I read you right there?
Dark, dramatic, epic with choir and voice (oceania and etheria). The tragic ending scene after a "personal" disaster.
that's the issue I brought up - it's a closer mic that ark 1 - but who is going to use the close mic only in a final mix?@ProfoundSilence
Got 30mins spare so very quickly dropped this down.
Bass and Cello with out of box settings on Iceni. Just close mics and no eq or master bus stuff.
If you could see what you can get with Ark I'd be interested to hear. It just doesn't get close to this for me
Anyhoo, midi attached and my scrappy audio.
I give 8dio a chance, despite many negative reports.Another clue:
- For fast movement 8dio legato arpeggio (violins, violas, cellos) is in sale, with code L8VE you get it for $28
Would you say if one was to attempt to get all the reverb from effects (algo and/or convolution), that using Ark 1 close mics only, with trimmed release tails, is the way to go to avoid the common issues with varying tail lengths that many/all wet libraries have? Or would it be better to use the standard close + tree setup and remove the release tails? In general I've been going back and forth on whether I want to use recorded reverb or strip it out and use my own, I just can't decide on what suits me better. Since I use the single articulation patches in Ark 1 it would be a lot of fiddling just to try it out.the example you posted doesn't sound bone dry at all. basically the exact point I was making - that looking for bone dry libraries is pointless.
I don't sorry. I love that video!Do you know which sections they recorded together/separately?
My guess is choir separately, an I'm not sure about strings and brass:
It certainly wasn't the best example. I had less reverb and staccato basses at first, but it didn't sound good.the example you posted doesn't sound bone dry at all. basically the exact point I was making - that looking for bone dry libraries is pointless.