sounds like native instruments in a nutshell most of the timeWhat can innovative ideas, good scripting/programing and good GUI do with unrealistic samples
It sounds very robotic and flat, no emotion and sounds very inexpressive. Knowing NI, the legato is probably bowed, and also it has that gross "super responsive legato" sound. Great for fast passages, bad for everything else. Compared to something like CSS where it has the least responsive legato, but gives the attack time the legato needs to sound good with samples. Generally, the slower the legato, the more expressive and emotive it sounds.I am trying to learn to listen better for these issues. Surely NI choice of musicians, halls, mics, tech individuals is not lacking in serious ways ? Where do they fall down so badly ?
Are there some specific instruments, sections, articulations, etc., to compare with popular SF versions for example.
BTW … my senior ears may be a major barrier here, with notable fall-off above ~4-5 KHz.
Even so. I still prefer to listen closely for these shortcomings.
So actually good for Pop music?!It sounds very robotic and flat, no emotion and sounds very inexpressive
It sounds very robotic and flat, no emotion and sounds very inexpressive. ...*** .... Generally, the slower the legato, the more expressive and emotive it sounds. ............
The articulations here don't flow well at all and it just sounds gross. Really the only thing they have going for them here is the sliding articulation which their session stuff all has. Their session horns sampling technique is not doing these strings justice.
Just have a listen at this timestamp. Honestly I would say just pick up chamber strings and ignore this marketing based money grab NI library.
Edit: Had a quick listen to the demos. It resembles a worse version of LASS to me, minus the shorts which have a nicer slow attack which are the only seemingly the redeeming factor. My opinion still stands, chamber strings trashes it.
one word.."staticness"Where do they fall down so badly ?
Amen, Amen, Amen... but it's actually unfair to put CSS in comparison with any other major library when it comes to these slow expressive legatos. CSS has truly set a new standard in this regard.Compared to something like CSS where it has the least responsive legato, but gives the attack time the legato needs to sound good with samples.
one word.."staticness"
This is what I hear with every note/articulation being played by this product..this could be due to trimming off notes attack/notes release/limited dynamic range etc...which could actually all be intended by NI for what the product is aimed for...."pop production" mainly.
From another side, pop not being my favourite style and my taste being heavily influenced by orchestral music, this makes me repel the product even more. But that's just me.
Other pop composers have found good use of the product from what I've read here and there...So I respect the product afterall in terms of how it still fulfils the needs of other fellow composers
Actually, the pop I occasionally hear on the radio sounds quite expressive... It might just be a coincidence though that the only pop I've happen to have heard had such soaring emotive lines.So actually good for Pop music?!
There are lots of great string parts in pop. It was more a joke in the direction of pop often being stamped as simple, 4-chords songs with no complexity.Actually, the pop I occasionally hear on the radio sounds quite expressive... It might just be a coincidence though that the only pop I've happen to have heard had such soaring emotive lines.
IMO, no. SSP 1 has excellent shorts. It can't do legato/singing lines at all, but it's good at what it does. It's an odd duck compared to what's out there. It was recorded very dry and very clean, with a minimum of vibrato. It's a sound that most people aren't used to.Actually, judging by the demos, it sounds like strings patches from a good keyboard, or a Yamaha\Roland Hardware sound module, no?