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Ryzen 3000 Vs I9 9900K for music production

pderbidge

Senior Member
you might have waited at least until the x570 made it to Main St. More choices, chipset maturity, potential heat dispersion/noise issues resolved, lower cost and all of that
You're absolutely right. This whole fan on the chipset thing for example is a bit of a miss for most studio musicians who need an ultra quiet PC. I'm sure that will eventually be addressed. Since my PC is in an adjacent room to my studio I don't have to worry about the noise even though I still build with fairly quiet components (Noctua, Corsair RMX etc...)
You're being an early adapter
LOL, I'm never accused of that. I still buy used cars, used Homes and I'm still on Windows 7, haha. In fact Windows 7 support going away is the whole reason I decided to do this right now. I'm worried that something like UVI, for example, will have an update and become unusable since I'm not on Win10. It's only a matter of time before more of my plugins drop support and cause issues. I figured, if I'm going to go through the pain of doing fresh install of Windows 10, having to reauthorize all my plugins etc... (anyone who has done this knows what a long and painful process this is) that I might as well tackle a few worthwhile upgrades while I'm at it. I have some big and long term projects coming up and won't have time to do this for quite a while so now is the time for me. I could have gone with a more tried and true platform like the i7 8700k or i9 9900k but since the Ryzens have come out swinging and most of what I'm doing with my system isn't ground breaking, I figured going with the new Ryzen isn't really a big risk. There's nothing I'm doing that the current iteration can't handle. However, if I needed the PC to be in my studio then I would either buy the one and only x570 board without a chipset fan at a whopping $600 (which I don't think even had thunderbolt support, I could be wrong) or honestly just go with an i9 9900k. Can you tell I'm not a fan (no pun intended) of this design? It'll be interesting to see when my MOBO comes if this fan becomes a moot point and I could just be over dramatizing it all in my head right now.
 

kitekrazy

Senior Member
I knew someone would call me out on that when I wrote it because I've thought the same thing. Having said that, if my current 1150 chipset with my trusty i7 4770k would have allowed me to upgrade my 32GB ram to 64GB , then I likely would not be doing a full upgrade right now and just added more memory and SSD's and been happy with that. This time around I wanted to make sure I didn't make that same mistake and gave myself room to grow. However, there is the real possibility that by the time I want to upgrade ram to 128GB that the DDR5 will be the new standard and DDR4 chips will be so scarce and costly that upgrading the whole system ends up being cheaper. Been there, done that:)
That mistake is not yours. It's the constant changing of platforms which makes me less fond of Intel. Plus there are enough bad developers out there that can bog down a future proof system.
 

EvilDragon

KSP Wizard
It exists for AsRock motherboards? And likely other vendors will follow. X570 chipset does support it - so not sure why would you be dismissing it.
 

Pictus

Active Member
Thunderbolt. One word enough for me to dismiss AMD right now. ?????
Some ASRock have TB header and three models have built-in Thunderbolt ports:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14461/made-for-creators-asrock-x570-creator-with-ddr44600-two-thunderbolt-10g-lan
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14455/asrock-x570-aqua-heaviest-flagship-motherboard-ever-with-thunderbolt
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14550/asrock-x570-phantom-gaming-itx-tb3-

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It exists for AsRock motherboards? And likely other vendors will follow. X570 chipset does support it - so not sure why would you be dismissing it.

Strange Gigabyte did not offer TB support this time, but I suspect they will for the new Threadrippers.
 

LinusW

Active Member
So it seems Intel have made Thunderbolt specification royalty free in the beginning of 2019 so AMD can finally get Thunderbolt. Cool, seems AsRock were quick to implement it.
 

EvilDragon

KSP Wizard
AsRock has been doing TB via add-on cards for some time now, regardless of royalty fee. My Z170 board has it (TB2, tho - which is fine for my RME UFX+).
 

EvilDragon

KSP Wizard
Up to you to decide really. I'm staying on my i7-6700K for the time being. :grin:

Next year is gonna be interesting for sure.
 
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Solarsentinel

Member
Up to you to decide really. I'm staying on my i7-6700K for the time being. :grin:

Next year is gonna be interesting for sure.
Yet i'm not decide. I think pci express 4 is a marketing thing (for now), and i don't care about thunderbolt. 9900k seems to be still the king for DAW usage and it is quasi equal in term of consommation and temperature than the 3900X. Furthermore the price is nearly the same.
The only big thing is that the ryzen is more "technological new" (7nm) and more efficient in multitasks.
It's very difficult then...
 

Pictus

Active Member
The only big thing is that the ryzen is more "technological new" (7nm) and more efficient in multitasks.
The current Ryzen is wayyyyyyyy more safe than the current Intel CPUs...
Every time there is a new CPU flaw and the fixes makes the Intel systems slower... :eek:
 

chimuelo

Star Of Stage & Screen
I can’t believe how much money even older X470 boards are going for now.
I was going to build a 1U for shits and grins but since the 3000s were released the boards went up another 175 bucks?
I can wait.

The ASRock Rack X470 is 450 bucks now.
Even this well designed 1U Barebones is 750 bucks.

 

zircon_st

Lead Developer
9900k is not affected by half of those issues, and even those it is affected by do not meaningfully affect real-world performance based on benchmarks/research I've seen.
 

Shad0wLandsUK

Senior Member
9900k is not affected by half of those issues, and even those it is affected by do not meaningfully affect real-world performance based on benchmarks/research I've seen.
Very true, instead they suffer from Intel's CVE vulnerabilities that seem to come out every month or so
Requiring patches, fixes and sometimes performance impact to the CPU

So it is not a perfect world in the Intel camp
 
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