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"Rumours of Sunlight" | Orchestral

ka00

Senior Member
Here's a piece I just finished. Happy to receive any sort of feedback on composition, structure, mix, orchestration, etc. I've learned a lot from the fine and fair people of vi-control, and submit myself to your lashings!

Thanks for listening!


PS: I'll list sample libraries used tomorrow. My wife is waiting to watch OA with me!
 

jbuhler

Senior Member
Here's a piece I just finished. Happy to receive any sort of feedback on composition, structure, mix, orchestration, etc. I've learned a lot from the fine and fair people of vi-control, and submit myself to your lashings!

Thanks for listening!


PS: I'll list sample libraries used tomorrow. My wife is waiting to watch OA with me!
Not quite what I expected from the example you posted earlier, because that version came nearer the end of the piece, but I like very much what you did with it. Really, very lovely. Also great title.
 

whiskers

Perpetual student
beautiful, very intricate and textured. Love it! Got a bit of Danny Elfmann vibes. Or maybe JNH.
 
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ka00

ka00

Senior Member
Not quite what I expected from the example you posted earlier, because that version came nearer the end of the piece, but I like very much what you did with it. Really, very lovely. Also great title.
Thanks, jbuhler! It’s been a very long, dark winter here in Canada.

beautiful, very intricate and textured. Love it! Got a bit of Danny Elfmann vibes. Or maybe JNH.
Thanks, whiskers! Glad you enjoyed it. I should probably listen to more of those two.
 
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ka00

ka00

Senior Member
Here’s a list of the VI’s I used:

Main Strings:
CSS

Solo Strings:
CSSS
Embertone Joshua Bell

Piano:
Spitfire Simcock Felt

Brass:
CSB

Woodwinds:
VSL SE
Embertone Herring Clarinet

Percussion:
Berlin Percussion
VSL Synchron Percussion
SampleLogic Drum Fury
Sonixinema Superball

Textural:
Spitfire LCO Textures
OT Time Macro
Spitfire Angular Strings
Spitfire Fragile Strings
Spitfire Euphone
Fracture Sounds Singing Bowl
OT Symphonic Sphere
 

chrisr

Active Member
Really very beautiful, great listen to end a long day. I'l be listening again with fresh ears tomorrow.
 
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ka00

ka00

Senior Member
Very nice.. (Thomas Newman for me).
Thanks, Illico! Thomas Newman is my composer hero, lol. His music is pure emotional alchemy, and it really resonates deeply. A huge influence, and I’m happy that’s coming across. (Anyone know an address where I can direct my fan mail? Ha ha.)

Really very beautiful, great listen to end a long day. I'l be listening again with fresh ears tomorrow.
Thanks, Chris! That’s a really nice thing to hear.
 

Dave Connor

Senior Member
Very good. Nice strings (writing and sound.) I thought a key change would have renergized the piece midway (where the file is largest) and been easy enough to do. Piano also nice and seemed to work best when held and not followed by an eighth note with the eighths following in other instruments (which you did mostly.) Enjoyed the piece, it’s concept and execution. Looking forward to more.
 
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ka00

ka00

Senior Member
Thanks so much, Dave! That’s quite encouraging coming from you. I will definitely try your suggestions on future pieces.

My initial sketches for this song had some key changes in sections that I ultimately omitted after I started getting a little bit lost in the process.

My lack of music theory is still a blind spot that I’m trying to address as its making the writing process more excruciating than it likely needs to be.
 

Morodiene

Senior Moment
Great piece! (INFJ here) I agree with Dave about a key change. All it takes to do an effective key change sometimes is change one note or a chord to shift the tonal center.

But really, you have a very evocative piece here and a clear affect - so sometimes more fiddling isn't worth it. :)
 

Dave Connor

Senior Member
My initial sketches for this song had some key changes in sections that I ultimately omitted...
Actually, once you’ve completed a section and then start a new section of similar or contrasting material (or even an exact repeat of the prior section) you can simply begin the new section in a different key. That can be as easy as selecting the midi and moving eveything up or down a whole step or whatever (pitched instruments, not percussion obviously.) As long as you don’t move too far where some instruments are moved into extreme ranges you can usually get away with that. If you have already recorded your midi to audio that’s a different story of course.

Back in the day a key change or modulation would be prepared by steering toward the new key center but modern ears are used to abrupt modulations and indeed expect them. So it’s something to keep in mind.
 
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ka00

ka00

Senior Member
Great piece! (INFJ here) I agree with Dave about a key change. All it takes to do an effective key change sometimes is change one note or a chord to shift the tonal center.

But really, you have a very evocative piece here and a clear affect - so sometimes more fiddling isn't worth it. :)
Thank you, Morodiene! I will definitely try to start thinking about that more. I still don't know how @eph221 had me pegged as an INTP from this song (but, @eph221 if you happen to have a psych degree, a new thread with advice on how to curb sample library acquisition addiction would be helpful to many on this board, myself included!)

but modern ears are used to abrupt modulations and indeed expect them. So it’s something to keep in mind.
Will do! Some common feedback I've gotten on past songs was that there wasn't enough grounding them or enough clear patterns to lock onto. So, I made a conscious attempt on this one to use more repetition and keep things simpler. With more experience and feedback, I'll hopefully find the right balance.
 
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