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Shiirai

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So, I've been playing around with multiple sample libraries and have created an assortment of templates to make said playing more enjoyable. I mainly use Kontakt and have made pretty large templates featuring the Symphony Series, other NI Instruments and Sonokinetic instruments. I'm aware of how to purge and update samples within Kontakt. I usually use about 6 instances of Kontakt with up to 8 instruments each, usually netting me up to 9gb of RAM, all purged.

So when I tried to make a template featuring Red Room Palette, I was unpleasantly surprised that with 3 Kontakt (6) instances with 6 to 7 instruments each, all purged, I got to 7 to 8gb RAM and I can't for the life of me figure out why this is happening. Is Palette just more RAM intensive by default, or are things not correctly unloaded?

In case I'm doing something wrong, are there any other ways to save on RAM with Kontakt?

Note: Yes yes, I need more RAM which is on the way. ;)
 
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EvilDragon

KSP Wizard
Many Palette instruments do have quite a lot of groups, with some filters, modulators, etc. so some can indeed be more RAM intensive.

Also, are you using the latest version? The first one had the HQ crossfades which were using AET filters, which ate even more into RAM usage (even when purged) and slowed down loading of patches.
 
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Shiirai

Shiirai

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Looks like I'm on 1.1 and I can't tell if that's the latest version.

The main strings ensemble takes up 750mb ram, purged and unused.
 

EvilDragon

KSP Wizard
That definitely sounds wrong... Over here, all mics purged on the PSS 01 Strings patch, it's about 150 MB of RAM (checked in Task Manager, comparing to empty standalone Kontakt instance, in K5.8.1 - which is around 200 MB of RAM on its own).
 
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Shiirai

Shiirai

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That definitely sounds wrong... Over here, all mics purged on the PSS 01 Strings patch, it's about 150 MB of RAM (checked in Task Manager, comparing to empty standalone Kontakt instance, in K5.8.1 - which is around 200 MB of RAM on its own).
That would indeed be more than acceptable. Sadly, in my environment Kontakt 5 hits the 1gb RAM after loading and purging the Strings Ensemble as well. I've taken into account Kontakts own footprint. Very strange.

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Further research shows me that Melodics patches generally use about 250mb of RAM. Woodwinds and Brass over 500.
 
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MartinH.

Senior Member
So, I've been playing around with multiple sample libraries and have created an assortment of templates to make said playing more enjoyable. I mainly use Kontakt and have made pretty large templates featuring the Symphony Series, other NI Instruments and Sonokinetic instruments. I'm aware of how to purge and update samples within Kontakt. I usually use about 6 instances of Kontakt with up to 8 instruments each, usually netting me up to 9gb of RAM, all purged.

So when I tried to make a template featuring Red Room Palette, I was unpleasantly surprised that with 3 Kontakt (6) instances with 6 to 7 instruments each, all purged, I got to 7 to 8gb RAM and I can't for the life of me figure out why this is happening. Is Palette just more RAM intensive by default, or are things not correctly unloaded?

In case I'm doing something wrong, are there any other ways to save on RAM with Kontakt?

Note: Yes yes, I need more RAM which is on the way. ;)
Do you have it installed on an SSD and can try lowering the preload buffer size in the memory options of Kontakt?
 
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Shiirai

Shiirai

Resident Crow
Do you have it installed on an SSD and can try lowering the preload buffer size in the memory options of Kontakt?
It's not running from an SSD. I tried overriding the preload with 24kb which changed about an mb :P
 
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Shiirai

Shiirai

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I tried redownloading and replacing the main files as well. Didn't change anything.
 

EvilDragon

KSP Wizard
Quick question: in Palette's Samples folder, do you see any subfolder that contains .ndx files?

(And I'm not sure if I received a reply if you see HQ Xfade button in Settings area of the GUI or not.)
 
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Shiirai

Shiirai

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Quick question: in Palette's Samples folder, do you see any subfolder that contains .ndx files?

(And I'm not sure if I received a reply if you see HQ Xfade button in Settings area of the GUI or not.)
Hmm, Yes, actually.

So that means I'm not on the latest version? I don't see anything newer among my downloads.

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EvilDragon

KSP Wizard
Actually I don't recall if v1.1 with AET filters (HQ Xfades) removed from NKIs was released, but it's being prepared and should happen in due time (but some things happened along the way so it became v1.2). This is why our RAM usage comparison didn't match up. I was actually on v1.2, heheh.
 
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Shiirai

Shiirai

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Ahem. I see. Well, good to know there's going to be a fix at some point :P. I've contacted CS again for an ETA or possible pre-release version. Thanks a lot for your help!
 
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