Really fast repeating notes

erica-grace

Senior Member
Hi

I am trying to find out if this is possible with samples, or if we just are not there yet.

So, I took Mike Verta's "The Race" as a good example. It's about 1:26 sec in, where the 1st and second violins are playing a fast arpeggiated line.


I just took the first two bars - no need to keep going.

Here are three exs with CSS. First, legato, then stac, then measured trems.

[AUDIOPLUS=https://vi-control.net/community/attachments/race-leg-mp3.18107/][/AUDIOPLUS]

[AUDIOPLUS=https://vi-control.net/community/attachments/race-stac-mp3.18109/][/AUDIOPLUS]

[AUDIOPLUS=https://vi-control.net/community/attachments/race-mtrem-mp3.18108/][/AUDIOPLUS]


Those all sound pretty bad. Now, this is in no way a knock on the library. It's just that I dont think any library can do this effectively, with individual samples. Or am I wrong?

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BenG

Senior Member
This type of quick/nimble legato is imho not possible with samples. (At least convincigly)

For this stuff, I usually just use a spiccato/staccatissimo patch to get the overall feel I'm looking for. If the piece is going to be recorded live, I'll notate it as originally intended. (With slurs)
 

shireen

New Member
I think VSL orcherstal strings can do a pretty good job at it. this is a combination of the legato fast patch with the performance repetition spiccatos. very far from the real thing but much close than CSS from what I can hear!

[AUDIOPLUS=https://vi-control.net/community/attachments/vsl-mp3.18110/][/AUDIOPLUS]
 

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erica-grace

Senior Member
I think VSL orcherstal strings can do a pretty good job at it. this is a combination of the legato fast patch with the performance repetition spiccatos. very far from the real thing but much close than CSS from what I can hear!

[AUDIOPLUS=https://vi-control.net/community/attachments/vsl-mp3.18110/][/AUDIOPLUS]
Not bad, but not quite. Thanks! :)
 
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erica-grace

Senior Member
It sounds good but it doesn't sound like what Mike wrote. That's on-the-bow staccatos instead of slurred groups of 4 16ths.

CSS can do this just fine. Use Marcato without Spiccato overlay and make sure all notes overlap EXCEPT between slurs.

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I didnt think to try marc - I mean, why would marc work? :confused:

Will check that out later. Thanks! :)
 

Sovereign

Senior Member
Sounds ok - too bad you put the horns in there :/
Well, they hide any flaws. ;) But here's one with the violins playing solo. nothing layered on top, just the legato patch. Accents are done with slight cc modulation. That said, in terms of (fast) ostinatos that is really one area where most libraries are still lacking IMO.

[AUDIOPLUS=https://vi-control.net/community/attachments/soaring_solo-mp3.18123/][/AUDIOPLUS]
 

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