Poll: Which solo violin libraries are you really happy with? (old thread)
- Thread starter Vik
- Start date
Ashermusic
Senior Member
Not in the poll, but at least worthy of discussion: Embertone Friedlander violin, EW Hollywood Solo Violin, and Kirk Hunter Spotlight Strings solo violin.
And while it is a one trick pony, the Signor Paganini Solo Violin does the fast stuff brilliantly and is a bargain.
And while it is a one trick pony, the Signor Paganini Solo Violin does the fast stuff brilliantly and is a bargain.
Ashermusic
Senior Member
For any kind of complex part, I don't think that is a realistic expectation. Heck, with a difficult part even a good real violinist might need a second pass.
OP
OP
Vik
Vi-k
Hmmm... if an instrument contain several notes you avoid because they almost sound as if they come from another instrument, that sounds kind of major to me. (The same goes for being disappointed with all but 4 articulations – which makes me wonder what exactly it is it that your Nocturne violin can do which your Bohemian cannot...)
ETA: I found a couple of live performances on YouTube:
Last edited:
OP
OP
Vik
Vi-k
Sorry, I must have missed that post. The products which weren't mentioned in the "overview thread" wasn't included, so please vote for these other libraries my posting a message instead, and as mentioned earlier: I had this 10 vote limit, so I couldn't include more than that anyway. But this thread/poll is only about dedicated solo violin VIs - Kirk Hunter and Signor Paganini is mentioned in the other thread/poll which is about string quartet/first chair products, here:
http://vi-control.net/community/thr...raries-you-are-really-happy-with.54967/page-2
Re. my decisions, I have a feeling that I need to get at least three of the violin products, and based on feedback from others and demos, OT First Chairs, CineStrings Solo, OT Nocturne, Virharmonic Bohemian violin and the Chris Hein violin are my favourites, but I really like the tone of a few others too, for instance the East West Gypsy.
Btw, if someone here needs to waste 10 minutes, I could PM them a one track MIDI file which would be great to hear with any of the solo/FC instruments. I'll gladly return the favour in one way or the other.
constaneum
Senior Member
Do PM me to try out. hehehe.
Frederick Russ
Founder Emeritus
Seems like there is a ten answer limit. I'll check that out with the developers.
I've created a more comprehensive poll here: http://www.poll-maker.com/poll791486x5e784c8A-32
I've created a more comprehensive poll here: http://www.poll-maker.com/poll791486x5e784c8A-32
Parsifal666
I don't even own a DAW, I'm just a troll.
Still no EW Gypsy. I'll pass.
OP
OP
Vik
Vi-k
I think poll-maker.com may be a free service, so anyone want who wants to create a new poll with both all the products from the two current polls and those others who have been mentioned in the threads could be included...
And I agree that EW Gypsy should be in there, it really has something to it's sound that the others don't. Maybe one even should include some of the products which aren't released yet, but which we know is being worked on (like eg Emotional Violin)?
OP
OP
Vik
Vi-k
I've already gotten files with the Bohemian, Cinestrings Solo Violin, Embertone Friedlander and Trio Broz Solo Violin. Thanks a lot. Maybe I can, post these to this thread, if I get permission. Anyone who wants to give OT Nocturne a try? It should work well in theory, because the MIDI file I want to try out is the file behind this Berlin Strings test track:
A lot of portamento (portamenti?), I know... remember, it's only a quick test file.
Thanks again.
Living Fossil
Senior Member
VSL Solo Violin.
However, you left it out from the poll...
However, you left it out from the poll...
OP
OP
Vik
Vi-k
Hi! I didn't actually leave it out of the poll, this poll is about "solo (etc) violins that can be bought as a separate products". There's also a poll here, about "first chairs"/quartets etc: http://vi-control.net/community/thr...ir-libraries-you-are-really-happy-with.54967/ VSL Solo Strings are in that poll.
The real problem is that the forum software still can have max. 10 response options, so the poll needed to be divided. But - check out the last 3-4 posts in this thread.
OP
OP
Vik
Vi-k
And here are the files. This isn't a "serious" comparison, for instance because stuff like portamento and slow/fast attacks aren't at all identical between the files. But still - they give an impression of the differences, in terms of the basic sound of each of these four violins has.
[AUDIOPLUS=http://vi-control.net/community/attachments/cinestrings-solo-violin-1-mp3.6093/][/AUDIOPLUS]
[AUDIOPLUS=http://vi-control.net/community/attachments/trio-broz-solo-violin-mp3.6094/][/AUDIOPLUS]
[AUDIOPLUS=http://vi-control.net/community/attachments/embertone-friedlander-violin-mp3.6095/][/AUDIOPLUS]
[AUDIOPLUS=http://vi-control.net/community/attachments/bohemian-violin-mp3.6096/][/AUDIOPLUS]
garyhiebner
Active Member
Yeah, Embertone needs to be added to the poll
Matt Riley
Active Member
I have almost all of EWs solo violins and Embertone's Friedlander. I'm not happy with any of them in terms of getting a realistic mockup. EW's Gypsy has the best tone IMO though. My complaint with Friedlander is that it sounds clunky and can be difficult to get smooth sounding lines. I then getting it to sound expressive/passionate is chore too. Just my experience.
OP
OP
Vik
Vi-k
In these particular clips, the Embertone has too much vibrato IMO. And most of them are using only one single dynamic layer (Embertone is one of them). I'm not sure which of the libraries that come with multiple dynamic layers. Besides, Bohemian doesn't have portamento or fast runs (yet), so it sounds a little stiff. But in general I like the tone of it compared with the other three audio clips, except that the beginning of the notes sometimes sound a little... insecure.
Kyle Preston
I Think, Therefore I Ambient
Friedlander is superb imho, though it really does take quite a bit of tweaking to get right. It's difficult to just play a part with it that sounds good; a lot of post-performance midi cc is necessary to make it shine - requires alotta fiddlin' around if you will.
Dad jokes aside, I love it, incredibly versatile.
Dad jokes aside, I love it, incredibly versatile.
OP
OP
Vik
Vi-k
This definitely sounds like a good violin, and (IMO: unlike some of the other libraries) the tone somehow reflects some of the passion a real violin sound has at best.
But what are the reasons to have have other libraries than VSL for solo violin? Does it have several dynamic layers, multiple mic positions, a believable rebow etc? Crossfade between vibrato layers (not that that always is something one would want to use, especially for a solo instrument)?
