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ChrisSiuMusic

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Hey everyone! As musicians and composers, most of us work with MIDI controllers and keyboards on a daily basis, and the ability to play sufficiently is very important to maintaining inspiration and a smooth workflow.

As a result, I'm brainstorming some content on piano skills & technique for my Youtube channel, and would love your input and feedback! So I've put together a short survey asking some questions about you and the keys, and should take no longer than 5 minutes. You can find it here: https://christophersiu.typeform.com/to/Q9aApTDZ

I look forward to checking out your thoughts. Thanks for helping me help you as much as possible! :)
 

PeterN

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Hi Chris,

I came across this with search word "piano".

You are both a piano player and you arrange virtual piano with midi. Have you ever compared, midi and real piano, is it worth to rather record real piano? In other words, throw your own mic in there and have interface. Have you tried and checked difference, say, on one song? You get it right....you make one virtual piano version, and one real piano version. If you, or someone else did this, can you say real version is better? Or how about "half real", so you record the midi piano to sequencer in its own pace.


Why Im asking, Im not that satisfied with midi, and I wonder if I REALLY, have to start recording from real piano, to get the best result. The thought is giving stress, bcs it will be a lot of work arranging etc.

Have you tested this?

Anyone else, please share your opinion too.
 
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Hi Chris,

I came across this with search word "piano".

You are both a piano player and you arrange virtual piano with midi. Have you ever compared, midi and real piano, is it worth to rather record real piano? In other words, throw your own mic in there and have interface. Have you tried and checked difference, say, on one song? You get it right....you make one virtual piano version, and one real piano version. If you, or someone else did this, can you say real version is better? Or how about "half real", so you record the midi piano to sequencer in its own pace.


Why Im asking, Im not that satisfied with midi, and I wonder if I REALLY, have to start recording from real piano, to get the best result. The thought is giving stress, bcs it will be a lot of work arranging etc.

Have you tested this?

Anyone else, please share your opinion too.
Great question. I’ve tried recording my real piano (Steinway grand), but my simple home setup is just not good enough because I don’t have the proper knowledge to set it up properly for best results.

Therefore, I’ve been using midi and libraries ever since, and I have no issues with going back and editing the samples/velocities as needed because the professionally recorded sound is worth it. Hope that helps!
 

PeterN

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Thanks for reply!

I might not have the patience, or time - at least at the moment - but Ive recorded guitar tracks with a broken mic on kitchen table (one is in members compositions) and it still "feels" better than the best guitar VSTs. It just doesnt work if its midi. Cant stand 100% midi bcs it takes away something, something essential. I dont know what it is, but lets say it takes away the white magic from the spell.

So I imagine throwing in a crap mic hanging in piano, soothing it a bit, maybe a tiny bit gullfoss, will still be better than the best piano VST. Because the white magic is there. This is an essential ingredient. You cant have it 100% midi or the spell is destroyed. You dont play poker without the King card either.

What about other people here, do you record your own piano?
 
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packhorse

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Hey everyone! As musicians and composers, most of us work with MIDI controllers and keyboards on a daily basis, and the ability to play sufficiently is very important to maintaining inspiration and a smooth workflow.

As a result, I'm brainstorming some content on piano skills & technique for my Youtube channel, and would love your input and feedback! So I've put together a short survey asking some questions about you and the keys, and should take no longer than 5 minutes. You can find it here: https://christophersiu.typeform.com/to/Q9aApTDZ

I look forward to checking out your thoughts. Thanks for helping me help you as much as possible! :)
Hello Chris. I have just submitted my completed survey. Please keep me in the loop. Thanks Glynn
 

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Hey everyone! As musicians and composers, most of us work with MIDI controllers and keyboards on a daily basis, and the ability to play sufficiently is very important to maintaining inspiration and a smooth workflow.

As a result, I'm brainstorming some content on piano skills & technique for my Youtube channel, and would love your input and feedback! So I've put together a short survey asking some questions about you and the keys, and should take no longer than 5 minutes. You can find it here: https://christophersiu.typeform.com/to/Q9aApTDZ

I look forward to checking out your thoughts. Thanks for helping me help you as much as possible! :)
I would love to see the results of your survey. The contribution made by keyboard techniques to getting the very best out of sample libraries - take the new Abbey Road Two Iconic Strings as the latest example - is imho often seriously understated. Just watch the Paul Thompson walkthrough of AR2IS and you can see what I mean. Which leads me on to the thought of the keyboard itself, the octave range, whether or not keys are weighted etc etc. A whole bunch of variables.
 
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I would love to see the results of your survey. The contribution made by keyboard techniques to getting the very best out of sample libraries - take the new Abbey Road Two Iconic Strings as the latest example - is imho often seriously understated. Just watch the Paul Thompson walkthrough of AR2IS and you can see what I mean. Which leads me on to the thought of the keyboard itself, the octave range, whether or not keys are weighted etc etc. A whole bunch of variables.
Definitely an interesting topic to include for future content, thanks Andy!
 
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Hey friends! Some of you may be aware that I'm finishing up an in-depth course going over the necessary piano skills needed for composition. To make sure I'm covering all the necessary bases, would you do me a quick favour and fill out this survey?

It's 5 questions, should take no longer than 5 minutes, and will definitely help me get a great sense of how I can help you the best. Thank you so much!

 
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Hey everyone! A few months ago, I sent out a survey regarding how I could help you with your piano/keyboard skills as composers. As a classically trained pianist myself, a lot of the struggles I hear people encounter include technique, control, and hand independence.

I wanted to let you know that I'm currently uploading some piano tutorials on my channel, so if you're ready to improve in your keyboard playing, here's just one that you can digest right away. Enjoy!

 

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Hey everyone! A few months ago, I sent out a survey regarding how I could help you with your piano/keyboard skills as composers. As a classically trained pianist myself, a lot of the struggles I hear people encounter include technique, control, and hand independence.

I wanted to let you know that I'm currently uploading some piano tutorials on my channel, so if you're ready to improve in your keyboard playing, here's just one that you can digest right away. Enjoy!

Thanks Chris
 
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