Performance Samples' Con Moto Violins Demo

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  1. kavinsky

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    Performance Samples legatos are a lot more fluid and natural than SCS and Berlin Strings to my ears(you can clearly hear the crossfades in both cases). CSS - yes, its on the same level to me, outstanding legatos.
     
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  2. Fry777

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    This demo and the latest one posted by DarkestShadow are really convincing... release can't come soon enough !

    Is SCS really recognised for its legatos ? Everytime I hear someone using it it's always used more for its sustains and tone than its legato fluidity, but maybe I heard the wrong demos...
     
  3. Vik

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    Thanks for the example. Where is the bass in that clip coming from?
    I like the SCS legatos most of the time. Even the early Mural versions had some useful legatos in spite of it's limitations. This was done with an early Mural version, totally overusing the portamentos just to show how it sounds:

    SSS is better.

    And one good thing with SCS is that you have many different legatos which you actually can layer for a fuller sound: Sul G legato, Con Sord legato, Flautando legato... and both the old Legato Performance and the newer Performance Legato can be very useful. The SCS legato is also useful for layering on top of larger ensembles to make them sound smaller/add detail.

    But, as you can hear eg in this far from perfect legato comparison (had to remove #2 due to issues discussed in that thread), the Performance Samples guys (guy?) have a special focus on legatos:
    https://vi-control.net/community/threads/9-virtual-cello-sections.71618/
    ....which is why even playing that E major scale in the violin listening test above somehow sounds like music.
    In the cello example, the Con Moto cello is #3.
     
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  4. Sid Francis

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    These demos of the con moto line really sound good. But I always hear forte to fortissimo level. Is there no good pp or even ppp?
     
  5. DarkestShadow

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    Sounds great IMO!!
     
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  6. Vik

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    This also sounds remarkably good in my ears, compared with most other libraries out there. Around 10-12 seconds into the clip, these violins almost sound as warm and woody as violas... it's almost as if they have sneaked in a couple of viola players or two in the violin ensemble (which I'm sure they haven't , but which I somehow think all orchestras would do! :) ).
     
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  8. Horacio

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    Pretty mind blown with this legato and just overall beautiful tone. Can't wait till this comes out!!
     
  9. artinro

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    Hoping we're about to get a flurry of info. Their FB page says the rest of the strings (2 sets of Violins, Violas, and Basses) are all still slated for this month. If they're that close, would love to hear something soon!
     
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  10. midiman

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    I believe it is only the Violins that are coming this month. And later the rest. But maybe I misinterpreted.
     
  11. artinro

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    In one post, from several weeks ago, he mentioned all sections still on the books for late 2018. Then this was posted last week on FB:
     

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  12. midiman

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    On that Facebook post it just talks about Violins A and B, not Violas and Basses. Jasper Released the Cellos first. It is my belief that he will continue to release section by section, and not at the same time all the remaining sections. @Jasper Blunk Can you confirm this Jasper?
    Don't get me wrong @artinro , I am very excited about the Con Motto series, and wish they were all coming out at the same time! But realistically I think it is going to be section by section. I hope you are right and I am wrong :)
     
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