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Perfection is Overrated

Discussion in 'SAMPLE Talk' started by robgb, Jan 25, 2017.

  1. TimCox

    TimCox Senior Member

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    If you treat the journey to perfection as a constant learning process you will always grow and develop. The drive for perfection in that sense is how we get better. It's when you let that drive actually stunt your growth that the quest for perfection becomes a negative thing.

    Conversely, telling yourself you'll never get there and just be happy with what you do can stunt your growth equally as much.
     
  2. novaburst

    novaburst Senior Member

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    So many times post get miss read and interpretation is wrong

    I find it quite silly


    Good luck
     
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  3. schatzus

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    Being overrated is perfect.. and boring. Geez...
     
  4. DSmolken

    DSmolken Senior Member

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    Complaining about thread titles is generally not worth it, but I think this case is an exception. This thread would be so much better if the title was "Perfection is Overrrated". Just one extra r, but reinforces the thread's point.
     
  5. DarkestShadow

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    ...so, I'm not allowed to to write a track and find that everything is perfect when I'm done with it... without being an egoist? In the end it comes down to tastes. Perfection is mostly sunjective anyway. And if there are people who are lucky enough to be able to write exactly the music that they personally want to write and hear - good for them. I think if you are allowed to think of music by others as perfect you may as well think that about your own stuff, as long as it is genuine. Opinions you can have about others you can also have about yourself, everything else seems pretty restrictive to me.
     
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    robgb I Have Strong Opinions

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    If it's "perfect" for you, yes. But as you say, perfection is subjective. Which is why pursuing it is pointless. As I said, strive instead to do the very best you can.
    "The principle mark of genius is not perfection but originality, the opening of new frontiers." ~Arthur Koestler
     
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    robgb I Have Strong Opinions

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    I know the feeling. Welcome to the Internet.
     
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  8. Sears Poncho

    Sears Poncho Senior Member

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    I am perfect, I am Nomad. You are the creator, Roykirk.
     
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  9. schatzus

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    Love it! Perfect...
     
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  10. DarkestShadow

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    I'm curious as to why I can think of the work of others as being perfect but not think that of something I made? What a great thing it actually would be to be able to do a thing exactly the way one appreciates it.
     
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    robgb I Have Strong Opinions

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    Do you really think that?
    Again, like you said, it's subjective.
    But I don't believe anything is perfection. Every work of art has flaws, and sometimes those flaws are what make it great.
    Really, you're beating a dead horse here. I think my original post was pretty clear in its meaning.
    Enjoy the rest of your day.
     
  12. Pantonal

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    If I remember correctly the Chaccone was first heard in December of 1723. Interestingly the Fantasia and Fugue in G minor was first heard in November of the same year when Bach auditioned for the post of organist in Hamburg. He didn't get the job because the competition was better at "preluding with thalers" (German currency of the time). The Fantasia is also a very emotional work and quite possibly the first piece to use the diminished seventh chord as a modulatory pivot.

    For those who don't know the story, in June of 1723 Bach left with his boss on a business trip that took about 5 weeks. When he returned he found that his wife had died from an illness, had been buried and his children were living with an uncle.
     
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  13. Casiquire

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    This is an interesting conversation that seems to involve two groups of people with clashing definitions of perfection. In my opinion, perfection doesn't mean literally flawless everything, it means flawless execution of my vision. Between live players and samples there will never be absolute pristine final mixes all the time, but that means a level of character that's maybe perfect for the project.

    It's not egotistical to think you've reached that point
     
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  14. DarkestShadow

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    Hm, OK - you generally do not consider anything to be perfect... then the thread title would be "perfection doesn't exist". One of the things important here is of again subjectivity. For me there are a few (but truly very few) things (music and beyond) that are just entirely perfect, without any flaw. (my definiton of perfection also doesn't exclude flaws - some flaws like noises in samples for example can in some cases enhance realism and thus make a mock-up more perfectly realistic for example).
    But of course there is also IMO a difference between perfection and absolute perfection. I may consider something to be so great that I'm willing to look over a few minor niggles and call it perfect. I'd the agree not being able to be happy before this absolute and utter perfection is reached is often more damaging than good.
    Btw: I would never beat you! :P Greetings.... :)
     
  15. Ned Bouhalassa

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    I still think this thread has little to do with Sample Talk. Moderators?
     
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  16. Batrawi

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    I think looking for a perfect library is totally fair since we will play it imperfectly anyway.
    Just like trying to find a good real instrument.
     
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    robgb I Have Strong Opinions

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    That can be the title of your thread on the subject. Everyone wants to be a rewriter... ;)
     
  18. TimCox

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    I like Embertone and Orchestral Tools stuff over most. I think they have spirit and life to them.

    Problem solved! :grin:
     
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    robgb I Have Strong Opinions

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    I'm curious. Why do you give a crap what forum this is in? Don't read it, if it bothers you. And since it's clearly about the perfection (or lack thereof) of sample libraries, I think it's just fine here. But I'm happy to let the moderators decide. By the way, I started this thread back in January. I'm surprised people are even still responding.
     
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  20. KV626

    KV626 Senior Member

    Most of the posts have little to do with sample libraries. Most, not all of them.
     

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