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Satorious

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Thank @TRKStudios - this confirms some of my suspicions after watching the walkthroughs. Feeling relieved - was struggling to justify cost vs usage and it sounds like this was the right decision (for me)
 

dodecabilly

New Member
I've just installed it, and my first impression is very positive. But, this is my first OT library, majority of my orchestral stuff is from Spitfire, and I was not used to this HUUUGE sound, nor I could compare it to other OT libraries. I am very happy with mic positions, close mic is actually useful on it's own. There are patches that I cannot imagine using much (like the operatic male voices) but overall sound is really impressive... Even my wife was "Whoa, what was that? Sounds like Star Wars!" Only complaint so far - I wish it had more round robins for short articulations... Hopefully I will have some time to make a demo. To conclude - I am quite happy with my first OT purchase.
 

AlexanderSchiborr

Senior Member
The legatos who produces some swingy extra notes here and there is (I guess done on purpose) because imo it is more musical. The very strong and fast dialing in vibrato is exactly what I love for my writing but I can understand that some people who use strings are pads won´t dig it that much. However from my first impression and what I used today, some specials in there.


1. Flute / Piccolo Power legato (yikes the name is hilarous) but the sound and musicality and expression you get is really something I dont´hear in any other libraries I have. Though this is a rough take I already love that sound, short snippet and excerpt on a production track:


2. The high power legato strings (lol...captain power..and the violins of the future) and tuba / Trombone / CB combination ( I think that was it?) is pretty descent and a ballkicker and can be used in contexts like that as well:


However, as I am busy I will explore MA4 while workin on my commercial projects and let you know more..
 
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jbuhler

Senior Member
Flute / Piccolo Power legato (yikes the name is hilarous) but the sound and musicality and expression you get is really something I dont´hear in any other libraries I have. Though this is a rough take I already love that sound, short snippet and excerpt on a production track
Thanks for the examples. They are most welcome! The flute/piccs sounded pretty restrained there. They sound good for the passage, I just mean that I was expecting something a bit rougher and forced for POWER LEGATO. In fact, the woodwinds in the second example accompanying the illustration of the big low end struck me as more interesting.
 

AlexanderSchiborr

Senior Member
Thanks for the examples. They are most welcome! The flute/piccs sounded pretty restrained there. They sound good for the passage, I just mean that I was expecting something a bit rougher and forced for POWER LEGATO. In fact, the woodwinds in the second example accompanying the illustration of the big low end struck me as more interesting.
Yeah, well, I mixed them a bit restrained also..they have no soloing stage position with my mixing approach here in fact, they could have mixed a bit more with some more close miced approach, I think here I used the AB, Tree and Surround more like. But yeah..they are not that aggressive, but look..at the other patches..like the overblown shorts and stuff, there you will find the more in your face things..
 

jbuhler

Senior Member
Yeah, well, I mixed them a bit restrained also..they have no soloing stage position with my mixing approach here in fact, they could have mixed a bit more with some more close miced approach, I think here I used the AB, Tree and Surround more like. But yeah..they are not that aggressive, but look..at the other patches..like the overblown shorts and stuff, there you will find the more in your face things..
Yes, that makes sense. I mean they sound good on the passage and I recognize that you were shaping the sound for the passage not to show off the POWER LEGATO. (Sorry, that articulation name still cracks me up, and I can't help but capitalize it.) In any case, thanks very much for sharing. It really helps me get a better sense of the potential of the library.
 

Mystic

Senior Member
Well, this thread has been remarkably quiet for a major library that just dropped.
You know, I had some big rant typed out in response to this but in the end, it's not worth the argument I'm sure would ensue. Here's the bullet points: The marketing was terrible. Pressure marketing is even worse. The demos gave no reason for most of us to buy this. The lack of information is a huge cause. The fact that most people feel this library isn't really a need for their arsenal combined with the high cost doesn't help.

I'm really disappointed. I was hoping for something special with a new Ark since the past 3 have been real gems. Guess you can't win em all. I'm also irritated at myself for passing up on Afflatus for Ark. Won't happen again.
 
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jbuhler

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You know, I had some big rant typed out in response to this but in the end, it's not worth the argument I'm sure would ensue. Here's the bullet points: The marketing was terrible. Pressure marketing is even worse. The demos gave no reason for most of us to buy this. The lack of information is a huge cause. The fact that most people feel this library isn't really a need for their arsenal combined with the high cost doesn't help.

I'm really disappointed. I was hoping for something special with a new Ark since the past 3 have been real gems. Guess you can't win em all. I'm also irritated at myself for passing up on Afflatus for Ark. Won't happen again.
Well, I'm most sorry to hear this.
 

zimm83

Senior Member
like the other Arks, this may grow on me.

i will definitely use it.

and since many didn't bite, i'll have a tonal advantage.

;)
The more i use it, the more i discover things :
The power legato strings and winds give an excellent ethnic touch ...They are more portamento than legato. Ethnic lines...

And the winds combos can go towards jazzy things.!!! Really.
And once more, the chamber strings sound ......chamber strings.

The low strings, if you go with close 2 mics, you hear more the 2 cellos than the bass. So you can have the cello lines with a little touch of bass. Great.
The woman legato can be very soft if you disable the high velocities. Very effective for magical moments...
Flute picolo lines, great.
The horn lines have a superb accented legato. My go to for epic lines . Better than the a9legato horns of ark1...Surprised....

The crescendo tremolo are great for rapid short ostinatos. Better than the upbeat triplet.
The trills orchestrator is polyphonic and very effective. You can play it with two hands...

Really a great addition for me to the Ark series. And i don't even tell you about blending them together !!!

Have a great Christmas day all of you vst lovers !!!
 

jbuhler

Senior Member
The power legato strings and winds give an excellent ethnic touch ...They are more portamento than legato. Ethnic lines..
That’s interesting.

The low strings, if you go with close 2 mics, you hear more the 2 cellos than the bass. So you can have the cello lines with a little touch of bass. Great.
The woman legato can be very soft if you disable the high velocities. Very effective for magical moments...
Flute picolo lines, great.
The horn lines have a superb accented legato. My go to for epic lines . Better than the a9legato horns of ark1...Surprised....
these are great. Most surprised by your statement about the accented legato being better for epic lines than a9 horn patch.

And i don't even tell you about blending them together !!!
Do tell us about blending!
 

Parsifal666

I don't even own a DAW, I'm just a troll.
Yes, I hear you and my wallet feels a bit more secure as well. I do like libraries to be successes and people to be reasonably satisfied with their purchases.
I think this might be the poorest reception of any OT instrument....in fact, I'm almost positive this is an anomalous reception among the Arks...initial responses to the other Arks were overwhelmingly positive...and quite fast.
 

jbuhler

Senior Member
I think this might be the poorest reception of any OT instrument....in fact, I'm almost positive this is an anomalous reception among the Arks...initial responses to the other Arks were overwhelmingly positive...and quite fast.
That's my sense too. From the general lack of comment, I'm pretty sure the library is at least showing itself to be a bit of an enigma so that folks are needing to figure out what it is and what it adds before commenting. @zimm83 seems to have an angle on it and the second excerpt from @AlexanderSchiborr showed some distinctive potential for the library. So far, though I'm not seeing or hearing anything that makes me think I made the wrong decision to hold off buying.
 
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