Opinions on this PC build

zircon_st

Lead Developer
Hi there! I suppose the prices in your country are probably worse than the US, as some of these parts are overpriced compared to what you can get on Amazon, Newegg, etc... :(

I do have two suggestions:

1. 7700k is only quad core, and it is on an older platform. 9900k is coming next month and is faster with 2x the cores. At the very least, I recommend going to 8700k so you get 6 cores / 12 threads.

2. Try to get a 300-series motherboard such as H350 or 370, which will support 9900k if you choose to upgrade later
 
OP
Counterpointer
Hi there! I suppose the prices in your country are probably worse than the US, as some of these parts are overpriced compared to what you can get on Amazon, Newegg, etc... :(

I do have two suggestions:

1. 7700k is only quad core, and it is on an older platform. 9900k is coming next month and is faster with 2x the cores. At the very least, I recommend going to 8700k so you get 6 cores / 12 threads.

2. Try to get a 300-series motherboard such as H350 or 370, which will support 9900k if you choose to upgrade later
Ah, thank you! Won't the new releases be much more expensive though? Price is actually a big matter to me.
 

Bernard Duc

Member
That's true. Then I could get the 8700k for a little less, I guess. When are the releases due?
October is usually a good time to buy intel CPU. Ram and SSD fluctuate based in market. By the way for music there is no real use in having the the fastest SSD. The 860 evo should be more than enough.
 
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OP
Counterpointer
October is usually a good time to buy intel CPU. Ram and SSD fluctuate based in market. By the way for music there is no real use in having the the fastest SSD. The 860 evo should be more than enough.
How is faster not necessarily better when working on heavy VST projects? Won't the load time be reduced with faster discs?
 

puremusic

Active Member
Looking at your build you made the right decision on the type of cooler in that it has screws instead of push pins. Plastic push pins are a pain. Installing the CPU cooler is the part of building a PC I like least.
 

Damarus

Active Member
How is faster not necessarily better when working on heavy VST projects? Won't the load time be reduced with faster discs?
Yes. But I think the difference he was referencing is the price/performance. 860 Evo vs 970 PRO may not give you a huge performance jump for the price. When choosing an SSD these days, storage is the priority, then max speed. Unless you're not concerned about cost, then you can have both :)
 
OP
Counterpointer
Yes. But I think the difference he was referencing is the price/performance. 860 Evo vs 970 PRO may not give you a huge performance jump for the price. When choosing an SSD these days, storage is the priority, then max speed. Unless you're not concerned about cost, then you can have both :)
Ah, I see. Well, then I have to rethink the storage needs =)
 

Pictus

Active Member
The life expectancy for the Samsung PRO is at least 2 times of the EVO in the same series line like PRO 970 to EVO 970, but the EVOs are good enough see https://3dnews.ru/938764/page-3.html

The PRO is a better choice if plan to deal with BIG files like when editing video because there will be no cache(SLC NAND) starvation.
From https://www.extremetech.com/computing/268254-samsung-launches-new-970-evo-and-970-pro-ssds "(...)the 970 Pro doesn’t use an SLC NAND cache the way the 970 EVO does means that it retains its maximum write performance over a much longer time frame.(...)"

I prefer AMD GPU, can be a RX 550/560, see https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7060297
But for DAW stuff you can be just fine with the integrated GPU.

The cooler seems OK https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/arctic-freezer-33-esports-edition-cpu-cooler,5422-2.html but I prefer something like Thermalright Macho Rev.B

IF plan to buy a 6 core CPU need a compatible motherboard, ASUS PRIME B250-PLUS is not...
In the USA the ASRock Z370 PRO4 is $15 more than the ASUS PRIME B250-PLUS, but it is a way better motherboard with Thunderbolt header, Intel NIC, stronger VRM and compatible with 6/8 cores CPU, but for 8 cores I would choose the Z370/Z390 Taichi.
$250 for the 6 cores i5-9600k is sweeeeeeet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sadly only the i9-9900K or i7-9700K have a soldered heat spreader.
From https://goo.gl/XTNnDD
 
OP
Counterpointer
The life expectancy for the Samsung PRO is at least 2 times of the EVO in the same series line like PRO 970 to EVO 970, but the EVOs are good enough see https://3dnews.ru/938764/page-3.html

The PRO is a better choice if plan to deal with BIG files like when editing video because there will be no cache(SLC NAND) starvation.
From https://www.extremetech.com/computing/268254-samsung-launches-new-970-evo-and-970-pro-ssds "(...)the 970 Pro doesn’t use an SLC NAND cache the way the 970 EVO does means that it retains its maximum write performance over a much longer time frame.(...)"

I prefer AMD GPU, can be a RX 550/560, see https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7060297
But for DAW stuff you can be just fine with the integrated GPU.

The cooler seems OK https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/arctic-freezer-33-esports-edition-cpu-cooler,5422-2.html but I prefer something like Thermalright Macho Rev.B

IF plan to buy a 6 core CPU need a compatible motherboard, ASUS PRIME B250-PLUS is not...
In the USA the ASRock Z370 PRO4 is $15 more than the ASUS PRIME B250-PLUS, but it is a way better motherboard with Thunderbolt header, Intel NIC, stronger VRM and compatible with 6/8 cores CPU, but for 8 cores I would choose the Z370/Z390 Taichi.
$250 for the 6 cores i5-9600k is sweeeeeeet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sadly only the i9-9900K or i7-9700K have a soldered heat spreader.
From https://goo.gl/XTNnDD
Thanks for your insight! Interesting to see the comparison between i5 and i7. Now that big of a difference, appearantly.

What difference does a soldered heat spreader make?
 
OP
Counterpointer

How about this one? Not cheaper to buy a computer now compared to late september, but I really need a new computer soon. I should have pulled the trigger on black friday, but I was all into hardware and plugins then.

Anyway, any opinions and advice are most welcome!
 

Pictus

Active Member
How about this one? Not cheaper to buy a computer now compared to late september, but I really need a new computer soon. I should have pulled the trigger on black friday, but I was all into hardware and plugins then.

Anyway, any opinions and advice are most welcome!
I created a better build https://www.inet.se/produkt/b1045064/datorbygge
This build got a way better motherboard, GPU, cooling and PSU.
The AMD gpus are better for sound, see why
https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7060297
 
Counterpointer, do you really need a graphic card in your DAW?

The integrated graphics of the 9700k work fine if you're not into (heavy) gaming.
Even using multiple screens isn't a problem, and you have less heat & noise issues.

The Samsung 970 EVO 1TB is IMO an excellent choice. But why a separate 250G one? When starting from scratch, I personally would try to keep an M.2 slot free for another 1 or 2TB NVM SSD in the future when prices come down...