One hit song -- 30 credited writers

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  1. JohnG

    JohnG Senior Member

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    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/03/07/magazine/top-songs.html#/travis-scott

    NYT: How many people does it take to write a No. 1 hit? In the case of Travis Scott’s smash “Sicko Mode,” which came out Aug. 3, 2018, and has been on Billboard’s Hot 100 chart every week since, 30 different songwriters are credited. That’s a preposterously high number that speaks, in part, to the shift in top-tier rap toward a collaboration-heavy, auteurist mode of creation. It also speaks to the song’s unorthodox structure. “Sicko Mode,” which Scott performed at the Super Bowl halftime show, switches between three different beats created by six different producers, with additional work, it turns out, from a Switzerland-based washing-machine salesman.

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  2. jbuhler

    jbuhler Senior Member

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    And here I thought an "auteurist mode of creation" was the opposite of 30 different songwriters contributing...

    This seems to be in the genre of that NYT specialty, the fake trend story.
     
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  3. d.healey

    d.healey Music Monkey

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    Me too
     
  4. Desire Inspires

    Desire Inspires To the stars through desire....

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    This is why I love the music industry. They get that music is a collaborative effort.

    Music licensing on the other hand, terrible. Everyone wants to sit in front of a computer for hours trying to be a virtuoso at every instrument just so they can have 100% of the writer's share. Hello, work with others to fill in the spots you are not skilled in!!!
     
  5. chillbot

    chillbot Sock Muppet

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    God damn. Plus another 15 publishers as well. I would LOVE to see the splits on this....

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  6. babylonwaves

    babylonwaves Senior Member

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    high five for the washing machine guy
     
  7. Jdiggity1

    Jdiggity1 Stroking The Frog

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    Props for giving credit, no matter how small
     
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  8. chillbot

    chillbot Sock Muppet

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    It's good business for everyone.... except the poor sap doing the cue sheet....
     
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  9. SchnookyPants

    SchnookyPants I never metaphor I didn't like

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    So... this is how you write a hit song in the 21st century.
     
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  10. givemenoughrope

    givemenoughrope Senior Member

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    Is Coldplay guy listed up there? I could only take about nine seconds so I didn’t hear him.
     
  11. JC_

    JC_ Active Member

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    This. There are tons of hit records that didn't credit all of the writers.
     
  12. Desire Inspires

    Desire Inspires To the stars through desire....

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    Oh wow, so Drake is ‘Graham Aubrey Drake’ in the credits. He isn’t listed with a PRO affiliation. Who collects his royalties?
     
  13. dzilizzi

    dzilizzi I know nothing

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    I wonder how much of it is, "I'll give you writers credit if you let me use your mic/play the drums for me/ let me use your studio/ teach me how to sing so I don't sound too stupid/ etc....
     
  14. Jeremy Gillam

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  15. paularthur

    paularthur Jedi in training...

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    It's more of a medley than a song. A lot of beat changes, diff beats featuring diff samples...
     
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  16. Jdiggity1

    Jdiggity1 Stroking The Frog

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    It happens. There's also the old "whoever's in the room with you when you wrote it gets a cut".
    But knowing how cue sheet credits are given (and not given) for music in media, I'm not going to judge the pop world.
     
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  17. Jimmy Hellfire

    Jimmy Hellfire Senior Member

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    Everyone wrote one beat of the kick drum and then had to take a break. By the time they had the song done, they had burnt through 30 writers. I wonder what the rates are!
     
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  18. Desire Inspires

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    Are you talking about Chris Martin? No, this Chris Martin is a producer named DJ Premier. The song ‘Sicko Mode’ uses a bunch of samples. DJ Premier probably co-wrote one of the songs that was sampled.
     
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  19. Ben H

    Ben H Senior Member

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    30 writers and THAT'S the best that they come up with. :speechless:
     
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  20. ein fisch

    ein fisch Dreamer

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    Im usually not a fan of this certain kind of rap, but they did a hella good job with it IMO and i dont think that it was as easy as they make it look like it is
     

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