On the Fence About Spitfire Studio Woodwinds

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  1. miket

    miket Team Dany

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    I think the bassoons hold up, although the vibrato has to be handled with care. The oboes are indeed a bit dodgy, unfortunately.
     
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  2. markleake

    markleake Recovering sale addict

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    Very much appreciated. Close 2 and Outrigger mics sound much better than the Tree mic examples you put up before.

    I know the library is going to be a little limited, but these sound plenty good enough for me to consider getting the library. The quandary is all those mics and all that hard drive space taken up with mics I don't want or need.

    I wish they'd offer a cheaper choice for just one mic, but a mic you can *choose*.
     
  3. Parsifal666

    Parsifal666 I don't even own a DAW, I'm just a troll.

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    Let me guess, one of those close mics, Mark? :)
     
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  4. jamwerks

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    Yeah I'm still undecided about the mic's, but probably worth getting at the reduced price. On the product page they also list 2 mic mixes, though I haven't heard any talk about that. Thanks again to @re-peat!
     
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  5. Parsifal666

    Parsifal666 I don't even own a DAW, I'm just a troll.

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    At 120 US for an upgrade...sounds like a pretty damn good deal imo.

    I still have SSW in my WL as well...but I think I might wait on that one (get it for sure for Black Friday though, mostly to fit in with my other WWs).
     
  6. markleake

    markleake Recovering sale addict

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    Depends, Close 2 is what I'd choose I think. But I also recall the alternative Tree mics sounded good on something I listened to a while ago. It had far less room tone, which was a big plus... I don't like the boxy room sound that I hear in the main Tree mics. It's an academic exercise, but it does remind me why I originally skipped the idea of getting the core version of this series... they all use the mic I liked the least. o_O
     
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  7. Parsifal666

    Parsifal666 I don't even own a DAW, I'm just a troll.

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    Though I do like the Decca mic, re-peat sold me on those close (and the outriggers aren't shabby either imo).

    I was personally on the fence in regard to needing the extra mics in Professional (not to mention having a fine Cor Anglais and Contrabassoon in the Hein library). Those mp3s convinced me I'm significantly better off with the Pro...especially at the forthcoming price.
     
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  8. LowweeK

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    I have SStW Pro and yes, the extra mics are worth it. I don’t really like the Tree mics. I might even choose different mics on different instruments to find the sound I’m looking for.

    I also have SStB basic, not Pro, and I don’t really like the sound of Tree mic, it sounds too thin on brass for me. Room is an important component of a brass sound.
    Can someone confirm that the Pro extra mics are also a most welcome addition for SStB ? I’d jump the gun of wish list sale.
     
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  9. re-peat

    re-peat Senior Member

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    I'll do you a few examples, LowweeK.

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  10. re-peat

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    Here's the French Horn 2, staccato only (to better hear the space, said Grandmother), through 4 mic sets: (1) Tree2 (2) Ambient (3) Outriggers (4) Close2.
    If you wanna hear any of the other instruments, or other mics or mixes or whatever, let me know.

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  11. LowweeK

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    @re-peat : Thank you so much. It's very informative and we are blessed to have so many sond options. Each mic has a real character.

    If you don't mind, I'd like to hear either Tuba or Cymbasso, for which I think the sole Tree mic lacks body or ooomph. Short excerpt with staccato would be perfect.
     
  12. re-peat

    re-peat Senior Member

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    Or both? Here's a phrase the first half of which is played by the Cimbasso, the second half by the Tuba (and the last bar by the two of them together). The whole thing is repeated 4 times, using the same mic's (in the same order) as in the Horn example.

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  13. jaketanner

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    Any idea how long they give you to buy once they announce the sale?
     
  14. dzilizzi

    dzilizzi I know nothing

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    Based on the Xmas sales, it is usually about a week.
     
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  15. jaketanner

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    Just announced. May 12th. Very cool. Thanks!
     
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  16. axb312

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    What is this AB comparison between? Berlin woodwinds and ...?
     
  17. AlexanderSchiborr

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    and live recording.
     
  18. LowweeK

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    Thanks again. I like those sounds far better than the Tree mics, specially Decca & Ambient.
    Saving now for the Pro extension...
     
  19. jaketanner

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    For those that have gone from Studio Woodwinds core to the Professional version, is there a huge difference? other than the additional instruments of course...but do the additional mics truly make a difference in the way they sit within a composition?...debating if it's worth the extra $120 fro Pro.. Thanks.
     
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  20. Parsifal666

    Parsifal666 I don't even own a DAW, I'm just a troll.

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    I just upgraded and YES. As re-peat showed, the close and outrigger mics are excellent, with the former especially trumping the Core decca/tree mic in no uncertain terms. I wrote this whole woodwind choir piece while I was waiting with the Core (yes, it's my usual offal, but I'm trying lol!) and when I moved the instruments to the close 1 and 2 with just a dash of outrigger the difference was powerful (to say the least). Things opened up in a much more pleasing...I hate to say realistic (it's kind of a loaded term around these parts) way. You get much more of the warts-included sound, totally necessary if you're trying for any kind of quasi-"authentic" sound imo.

    I'd upload a sample but I suck both at composition and exporting, so forgive me. It's probably best to rely on re-peat's samples from earlier, because for all intents and purposes they provided me the impetus to upgrade in the first place.

    At 120 US the upgrade is beyond a no-brainer (well, unless you're selling your first born for it, in which case I would first make sure the kid is worth it).
     
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