NI / Galaxy Instruments / Nils Frahm -- NOIRE

TomislavEP

Active Member
I've watched some videos about "Noire" yesterday. Definitely an interesting library for me, but not so much for the piano itself but more because of that particles engine, sub tone elements etc. Every since Fracture Sounds introduced their Woodchester Piano, I'm intrigued by Kontakt piano library that has some background elements and pads already built-in, that seamlessly blend with the original piano sound. On the other hand, I have a selection of virtual pianos, especially from Native Instruments and Spitfire Audio that satisfy most of my needs for now, so I would buy Noire only as a part of the possible Komplete Update in the future. I must however say that I'm personally not too keen about Kontakt libraries and virtual instruments that recreate someone's signature sound or instrument, like in this and some other cases.
 

poetd

Active Member
I may do some experimenting with the Garritan CFX in combination with FX plugins like Tantra to see if I can attain a similar 'particle engine' texture. The felted samples are something else (although I do have NI's Una Corda).


You can do very similar with a couple of midi arpeggiators, I used the 2 in Cubase -arpache and arpachesx.

Added Midi track with direct output to main piano sound (Maverick with Una Corda layered and pitched up a bit for mechanical noise).
Then 2 midi sends one with arpache in random to "twinkly piano left" and one with arpachesx with one of the ballad presets going to "twinkly piano right". Autopan the two twinklies with some delays layered in too and presto - Olafur Arnalds rip off without having to fork out £129. :)
 
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CGR

Pianist, Composer & Arranger
You can do very similar with a couple of midi arpeggiators, I used the 2 in Cubase -arpache and arpachesx.

Added Midi track with direct output to main piano sound (Maverick with Una Corda layered and pitched up a bit for mechanical noise).
Then 2 midi sends one with arpache in random to "twinkly piano left" and one with arpachesx with one of the ballad presets going to "twinkly piano right". Autopan the two twinklies with some delays layered in too and presto - Olafur Arnalds rip off with having to give NI £129. :)
Great respect for musicians dedicating the time and finding their own take on a sound through experimenting. You also end up with something unique too, instead of sounding like everyone else playing the same presets.
 

SvenE

New Member
I got the library on Wednesday and love it. It has tons of customization options to make the sound yours. For me it is one of those sample libraries that give you immediate inspiration and I got lost playing with it for hours.
 

josephspirits

Active Member
No, you need to get the N Piano if you require the Una Crappa articulation for your music.
At first I thought Noire might actually be the N piano, but then I realized that Noire only has 88 keys...

I saw Nils perform last night actually and just couldn't wait to come on here and post a toilet brush comment.
 

sostenuto

Big NKS Fan !
Nils _ magical talent. :cool:
Choked up imagining those toilet tools hammering Grotrian 225 Concert …. just after $500. regulation /tuning. :eek:
THX for Link !
 

WaveRider

Active Member
Btw, I 'd just to commend Native Instruments for naming the Kontakt 6 plugin "Kontakt" instead of Kontakt 6. I wasted an entire hour trying to figure out why it wasn't showing up in my DAW -- next to the previous plugins named Kontakt 5 and 4. Sheeeeiiit.
 

JonSolo

Not Han's Brother
A/C is a wonderful invention...Nils if you are reading, check into a fan, or a/c or some sort of cooling device. Too much talent to lose to a heart attack. I mean sweat is good and all, (sex) otherwise, most of us don't sweat that much while doing what we love (I mean again, other than, well, you know, sex and even then...) but good job.

Just check into fans.

P.S. Love Noire! No sweat!
 

Salorom

Member
I've watched some videos about "Noire" yesterday. Definitely an interesting library for me, but not so much for the piano itself but more because of that particles engine, sub tone elements etc.
I second that. The particles engine looks very interesting, but VSL’s own Yamaha CFX has a much deeper, cleaner and broader sound, in my view. It has a lot more samples, too.
 

ChristopherT

New Member
Really loving this library, although the softer/gentler side of the piano does not really bowl me over.
So I used Noir with 100% particles (no piano blend), and place it with Emotional Piano. Solved.

The Particles engine is wonderful ! - and can be used with any other instruments because the blend function allows for taking out the piano completely and being left with just particles.
 

prodigalson

Senior Member
Really loving this library, although the softer/gentler side of the piano does not really bowl me over.
So I used Noir with 100% particles (no piano blend), and place it with Emotional Piano. Solved.

The Particles engine is wonderful ! - and can be used with any other instruments because the blend function allows for taking out the piano completely and being left with just particles.
It’s funny how people’s perspectives can be so different. For me, the softer dynamics is where this piano excels.