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New ozone 8, Neutron 2,

Discussion in 'SAMPLE Talk' started by novaburst, Oct 6, 2017.

  1. Balefire

    Balefire Senior Member

    Sep 16, 2016
    The 'tonal control' thing that they're making a song and dance about is a shameless ripoff of Mastering The Mix's Reference plugin, which is actually better than Izotope's version. I personally think the upgrade pricing they're asking for is unjustifiable, especially as you only get 12 months of support.
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  2. artomatic

    artomatic I Compose With My Ears

    Aug 27, 2016
    I'm wondering how many of you are Ozone Advance users? I have the O7 Standard and am wondering if it's worth it to go upgrade to 8 Advance (vintage comp, tape emu, etc.).
  3. johnbusbymusic

    johnbusbymusic Musician/Composer

    Oct 10, 2016
    It's worth it if you want to run the modules as individual channel strip plug-ins
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  4. artomatic

    artomatic I Compose With My Ears

    Aug 27, 2016
    Thanks! Didn't know one can run the modules as individual channel strip plug-ins. Definitely want that!
  5. JT

    JT Senior Member

    Feb 20, 2011
    The Spectral Shaper module in O8 advanced is one that I'm running on individual channel strips and getting good results.
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  6. rocking.xmas.man

    rocking.xmas.man Senior Member

    I'm using ozone 7 advanced as a part of Music Production Bundle 2. Having the individual modules is great, I especially like the vintage EQ as a separated Plugin. I don't know if that alone would be worth the higher Price of advanced - but bundled together with Neutron advanced and 'some other stuff' it was a great deal.
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  7. Fleer

    Fleer No Member

    Dec 12, 2014
    Loved O7 Advanced's individual plug-ins but didn't go for Neutron Advanced, as the standard version sufficed. No need then for surround or the individual plug-ins inside Neutron. Now, however, I'm afraid you'd need both Advanced versions (of O8 and N2) to get to the fun stuff, such as Tonal Balance Control, and functional mixing/mastering integration between the two.
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  8. passsacaglia

    passsacaglia Senior Member

    Jan 14, 2016
    Thx for the tips! Reference looks cool ... just gonna try the demo.

    Anyone who had CPU issues with Eventide's Bundle limiter?? I got a super fresh iMac 4.0GHz, about 20 channels (synths and voices), a lot of voices but ... got some serious cracks n pops. 512 was Ok but ... very weird.
  9. nordicguy

    nordicguy Senior Member

    Jan 18, 2007
    Did you download the last version?

    From KVR :

    "EQuivocate 1.0.5 is now available which fixes some OpenGL rendering issues, and allows you to turn off OpenGL entirely if needed. If you were experiencing extreme CPU load, or sliders that don't show up, release 1.0.5 should fix your problems.
    Also, thank you to the guys from Unfiltered Audio who gave me a heads up on their method for deactivating OpenGL rendering. You guys should know that most of the people making this gear are just great people.
    https://www.eventideaudio.com/support/p ... installers
  10. Joe Maron

    Joe Maron Senior Member

    Aug 24, 2017
    Just received a new offer for the upgrade, $199 for O8N2 advanced. Seems there were a lot of complaints over the orioginal upgrade price!
  11. lpuser

    lpuser Senior Member

    Dec 7, 2012
    ... however iZotope has not generally changed pricing. My account still shows the same, so it might be depending on what you already own or from a 3rd party. Got my version from plugindiscounts.com which was amazingly cheaper than the original iZotope offer for Neutron owners who like to switch to the bundle.
  12. milliontown

    milliontown Active Member

    Jul 23, 2013
    From the iZotope Facebook page:
    "That’s why when we launched Ozone 8 and Neutron 2 last week, we were dismayed to see so many of you upset about the pricing and upgrade options. Well, we’ve heard your concerns: effective immediately, we’re introducing a new price for Music Production Bundle 2 upgraders. That means if you already own Music Production Bundle 2, you can now upgrade to the O8N2 bundle for $199 (formerly $299). We hope this new price will allow more folks to get access to our new products so they can make the music and do the work they love.

    Login to your iZotope account to redeem your coupon for O8N2 Bundle at $199 ($100 price cut)."
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  13. Quanah

    Quanah Member

    Jan 27, 2016
    Los Angeles
    An option for MBP2 owners, sans RX standard.

    "At iZotope, we make it a point to stay connected to our community of passionate customers. Whether it's product research, surveys, or reading the comments on social media, your opinion matters to us. Last week, we announced Ozone 8 and Neutron 2, and some Music Production Bundle 2 customers expressed concern over pricing.

    Effective today through October 31, you can now upgrade to the O8N2 Bundle for the introductory price of $199. The O8N2 Bundle includes Ozone 8 Advanced, Neutron 2 Advanced, and the new Tonal Balance Control plug-in. You still have the option of getting the Music Production Suite with RX 6 Standard for $299.

    We are extremely proud of the new versions of Ozone and Neutron. A lot of hard work, research, and effort went into creating these two products. We hope this new price change will allow more customers to get access to our new products and enjoy the integrated workflow of Ozone 8 and Neutron 2.
  14. koolkeys

    koolkeys Senior Member

    Dec 31, 2007
    While it looks like they are trying to help people with pricing, they really didn't. They just gave a cheaper upgrade for less products. Great if you just want Ozone and Neutron upgrades, but you won't have the Music Production bundle. Obviously you get to keep your previous bundle so you don't lose products, but you also don't get the full bundle For the reduced pricing, and your future upgrade pricing will likely,Ely be affected. For those who like to stay up to date with the bundle, the price is still $300 to upgrade.

    Not sure which route to take. I am also not debating value but just saying that they didn't really reduce pricing. Unless I am missing something?

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  15. Fleer

    Fleer No Member

    Dec 12, 2014
    Don’t get it.
    What do they mean by:”That means if you already own Music Production Bundle 2, you can now upgrade to the O8N2 bundle for $199 (formerly $299)” if that ($299) was the price to upgrade MBP2 to MPS?
  16. storyteller

    storyteller Senior Member

    Dec 26, 2015
    I can’t help but still see a venture-capital-backed marketing team at work. Spin the frustrated customer response into a “look what we did for you because we listened” approach, when it is really just a sleight-of-hand marketing spin.

    I am a very happy person and have been pleased with Neutron 1. For the most part, I think iZotope products are very good (albeit DDLY’s GUI needs a lot of help). It is just the principle of it all that rubs me the wrong way. So until that’s resolved, I just don’t believe in feeding the animal that is currently trying to bite my hand... The animal will eventually calm down or eventually run off all of its customers. It is up to them to figure out which animal they want to be.
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2017
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  17. RCsound

    RCsound Senior Member

    Jan 31, 2015
    No, this is not a proper upgrade path to MPB2 users, what i really want to see is Music Production Suite with and without RX standar, that way the price will be more accurate for those that upgrade from MPB2 to MPS (without RX Standar) with the price at 199$ and MPB2 to MPS (with RX Standar) with 299$. that's the correct way now that Izotope decided to lower the price to get O8N2 bundle.
  18. Mornats

    Mornats Senior Member

    Feb 21, 2016
    Bristol, UK
    I want to upgrade from Neutron 1 standard and Ozone 7 standard to the O8N2 bundle but it gets to me that if I hadn't bought Ozone 7 recently, I'd have been able to upgrade to the O8N2 bundle for the same price as it'll cost me now. So the money spent on O7 seems wasted now even though it was a decent deal at the time. I've only had O7 for a couple of months now.

    I do really want O8 Advanced but I'm hesitating about the N2 Advanced upgrade as there's not too much in there for me for the price.
  19. rocking.xmas.man

    rocking.xmas.man Senior Member

    ask them if they can do something for you. they might come up with an additional coupon just for you
  20. Mornats

    Mornats Senior Member

    Feb 21, 2016
    Bristol, UK
    It feels cheeky to ask really. My hesitation is partly due to the issue i mentioned above but also due to me seeing much more value in the Ozone upgrade than the Neutron one. I've been running the O8A demo for a week now and it's all over a track, giving me value. I'm going to trial N2A first to see if the linked Tonal thing and the Visual Mixer are worth it to me. Otherwise I'll just got for the Ozone upgrade. And it's not really Izotope's pricing strategy to blame for my perception of what use I'd get from the upgrade. :)

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