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New composition: "Le ciel étoilé"

Discussion in 'Member's Compositions' started by monsieurmickey, Jul 5, 2016.

  1. monsieurmickey

    monsieurmickey Member

    Sep 27, 2015

    Here is my new composition performed with Tina Guo Cinesamples Acoustic Cello , Imperfect Samples Fazioli and HO for the strings.

    Good listening! :)
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  2. OleJoergensen

    OleJoergensen Senior Member

    Jul 16, 2015
    Its beautiful. The cello sounds really good.
  3. OP

    monsieurmickey Member

    Sep 27, 2015
    Thank you!
    Cinesamples has a good sound
  4. mcalis

    mcalis Senior Member

    May 8, 2016
    Lots of things to like about this piece! It has a very nice melody and the cello does sound very pleasant and emotive to my ears.

    But you're here for the feedback, so let me get to it! I should preface this, as always, by saying that I am just a hobbyist composer. I am not an expert on the technicalities and everything I say is just my opinion. Please take it with a grain of salt.

    Several things that you might want to consider:
    • Are the piano and cello playing in the same range often? At time it does sound like this and I wonder if it'd be more effective for the piano to move up or down an octave, because currently they sometimes get in each other's way a little bit.
    • The piano sounds closer than the cello but the cello has the lead. My instinct would be to reverse this and have the piano on more ambient mics will bringing the cello closer. I don't know if that will be "better" in any way, but it may be worth a try?
    • For my ear, the piano was a little too present. I'd pull it back slightly because the piano is clearly accompanying the cello but currently they seem to be going at and equal volume.
    • Not sure if the high strings at around 1:18 are really necessary. They're not very audible and I don't feel they're adding much? The cello and piano are strong enough on their own. You seem to add the strings at points where the piano and cello are already playing fairly loudly so if you do want to keep the strings, you might want to make them a little bit more present and pull back the piano and cello a bit. But that's a matter of taste of course.

    Other than that, I really enjoyed the piece! I am looking forward to hearing more future works from you! :)
  5. E.Heart

    E.Heart Active Member

    Feb 20, 2016
    Hi Mickey,

    Beautiful melody line! Nice how the cello melody builds up to that high note. The piano accompaniment has a nice and flowing structure. This theme does come back a lot, so some more variation of this theme would make it even more interesting.

    I agree with mcalis that the sound-setting and mix can be optimized. The piano sounds to be in front, but is a little dampened (probably the nature of the samples) while the cello sounds as if it comes from the back, but very much takes the lead. On my headphones that sounds a bit unnatural.
  6. OP

    monsieurmickey Member

    Sep 27, 2015
    Thank you for your feedback mcalis and E.Heart!
    I love this piano, but it is difficult to integrate into the mix.
    Maybe i should play the most on the keyboard range and decrease the volume.

    For strings, i felt like that :)
  7. Quasar

    Quasar Senior Member

    Jun 26, 2012
    Lovely. Haunting, sad and beautiful melody...
  8. col

    col Senior Member

    Jan 24, 2016
    That's a great advert for the sampled cello - might have to check it out !
  9. OP

    monsieurmickey Member

    Sep 27, 2015
    Sorry for the delay in reply ..!
    thank you very much
  10. TheNorseman

    TheNorseman Senior Member

    Jun 27, 2017
  11. SimonCharlesHanna

    SimonCharlesHanna Senior Member

    Feb 3, 2012
    Really lovely piece.

    The cello sounds beautiful but the bow change on every note (aside from the ports) just doesn't work for me and really draws too much attention to itself. Unfortunately there's nothing you can do about that with the Tina Guo Cello.
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  12. OP

    monsieurmickey Member

    Sep 27, 2015
    Thank you!
    Yes, it also hurts me but I did with
  13. Ned Bouhalassa

    Ned Bouhalassa Senior Member

    Sep 30, 2004
    I'm sorry to say that the re-bowing on the cello drives me away. IMHO it's far more agressive than the rest and doesn't gel with the accompaniment. Also the ending is very boring, maybe throw in a little surprise at the end?
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  14. OP

    monsieurmickey Member

    Sep 27, 2015
    I would have liked to ask Tina Guo herself!
    Maybe yes, get out a bit of the frame.

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