My own fear to put my original compositions on mastering web services

Discussion in 'Working in the Industry' started by JEPA, Aug 8, 2018.

  1. angeruroth

    angeruroth Member

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    Sorry to say it, but this thread looks like a SEO positioning thing... All that URL posting...
    But what do I know... Afaik it could be a righteous thread, so please don't mind me.
     
  2. gsilbers

    gsilbers Part of Pulsesetter-Sounds.com

    sorry. its the second page and im still not sure whats this about. IS that site strealing peoples music? Or is the site getting your info to sell it ... just like any other website and search engine?
     
  3. S.M Hassani

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    Hi Jepa,

    Your thread title implies a negative experience with loudnesspenalty.com. But according to you, that never happened. This could hurt the people behind it for no reason. Ian Shepherd is a respectable mastering engineer, who has a lot to teach most of us about mixing/mastering. He dedicates a good chunk of his time to advocate and educate about tasteful mastering practices.

    Do look him up as I'm sure you'll benefit from his work. (Not implying anything about your skill level here) I would hope you revise your thread title after doing so.

    This part I totally agree with.

    Here's a couple of videos if anyone is interested:





    His DynaMeter Plugin:




    Cheers,

    S.M
     
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  4. nordicguy

    nordicguy Active Member

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    I’m definitely seconding a new title for this thread.
    Interestingly enough, thread’s title brought them own debates recently.
     
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    JEPA Senior Member

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    I want to apologise for without learning about this website loudnesspenalty, quickly expressing my doubts about posting any composition on there, and in general in other mastering services. But all the comments are right, great professionals working in reliable companies.
    I think is more a sort of fear about giving away unreleased material to test only loudness not having a direct contact to a human being behind this algorithm (the app at the website). Only anonymous putting a song to see if it complies the loudness standard, i would not do. But if in contact with somebody is another thing. In general, 0s and 1s flying away in the internet...

    I 've changed the thread title to not hurt anybody without knowing exactly what i was talking about, like said before it was an impulse, instinct.

    All the best,
    Jorge
     
  6. ianshepherd

    ianshepherd New Member

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    Hi All,

    Good to see Loudness Penalty being talked about here. I'd just like to clarify a few points.

    Firstly, the site does not upload your music, as it says clearly on the front page. All the processing takes place in the browser on your computer - the only information we collect are the numbers calculated (so we can display them and email them to you, if you'd like).

    Second, the site also does no processing apart from calculating the loudness penalty. The original OP links to various limiters etc - that's not what Loudness Penalty does.

    And finally, none of the tools listed can do exactly what the LP site does. They all use RMS, LUFS etc to assess loudness, but that's not how the streaming services make their decisions. (Except TIDAL, who do use LUFS). That's why we made the site - in our tests, the values are within half a dB of the real-world results you'll see on YouTube, etc - whereas LUFS estimates can often be wrong by several dB.

    I hope that helps clear up any confusion, and that no-one feels discouraged from trying the site because of this thread. Any further questions, please let me know !

    Ian
     
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    JEPA Senior Member

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    in behalf of good will i apologise for opening the thread only based on my own doubts. I don't know the company related above, and i don't want to hurt them, so i will edit one more time the thread title and the first post and let only my own opinions in general.
     

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