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Most Disappointing Library Purchase?

ism

Senior Member
Points taken, but how are fans of 8Dio, or worse, 8Dio staff themselves, meant to take your comment Max? Cory called 8Dio H8Dio, there is no contesting that. If he apologised that would be a different story. Troels and others don't deserve that.
Fair.
 

MaxOctane

Señor Member
Points taken, but how are fans of 8Dio, or worse, 8Dio staff themselves, meant to take your comment Max? Cory called 8Dio H8Dio, there is no contesting that. If he apologised that would be a different story. Troels and others don't deserve that.
I wonder how Troels feels about being called 'H8Dio'. Surely that's pesonal?
I didn't see Cory say that anywhere in this thread. I've watched a bunch of his reviews and never heard the one where apparently he said that. So there is no need to bring that negativity --and call him out personally-- in this thread, just because his name was mentioned.

Anyway, I'll follow my own advice and this will the last opinion I share on this topic here. Thanks for at least hearing me out though :)
 
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ism

Senior Member
I wonder how Troels feels about being called 'H8Dio'. Surely that's pesonal?
Well this is itself kind of a venting thread, and venting over buyers remorse is a valid thing.


My deepest, bitterest regrets, come from 8dio libraries (though not recently). And lovely and talented guy Troels is (I also have 8dio libraries that fill me with inexpressible joy), 8dio marketing has really not always been beyond criticism - there are legitimate issues that at the very least merit a bit of venting.

So I don' think that the imperative of respecting Troels as a member of this community should uncritically shut down legitimate critique of 8dio marketing either, anymore that the equally important imperative of respecting Corey and his work deserves blanket immunity from the kind of critiques you make on his critical method.

But I do think there's a middle ground where we can make careful distinctions between attacking individuals and legitimate, respectful critique.

(Which I think is kind of your point also, so hopefully this is adds some texture?)
 
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Casiquire

Senior Member
If you think someone's unnecessarily cruel toward a company, being unnecessarily cruel to that person doesn't fix it. Actually we have it totally backwards: it's way worse to single out an individual than a company. Given 8dio's early days, I'm willing to bet his criticism went much deeper than what Cory is being criticized for now.
 

Alchemedia

Decomposer
I think Cory tends to be fair in his reviews about both the good and bad. A free copy shouldn't change that.
I obviously can't speak for Cory--I don't even know him personally, however I believe he was implying he felt somewhat pressured, whether subconsciously or otherwise, to favor companies in return for review copies. It is clearly apparent certain YouTube "influencers" are easily persuaded. I think this is a valid discussion particularly on a site such as this.
 

feck

Active Member
Spitfire Audio's The Grange is still the worst library I've ever bought. Not only does it play clunky as hell in Kontakt, but the fact that every crash cymbal has a kick drum baked into it because of their flimsy excuse that the drummer told them "I don't ever hit a cymbal without hitting a kick drum with it" and they accepted it/defended it, still blows my mind as the dumbest sample set decision I can think of.
 

Alchemedia

Decomposer
My deepest, bitterest regrets, come from 8dio libraries (though not recently).
I believe their ballistic impulse shopping inducing marketing tactics contribute to this. Ditto Waves & PA. Just like shopping at the Dollar Store when you get home and realize you purchased a bunch of crap you didn't need primarily because it was incredibly cheap.
 

dzilizzi

Senior Member
You're clearly not aware of his vendetta against 8Dio who he has cruelly called 'H8Dio' and apparently refuses to review any more of their products.

And any composer who calls Tundra just 'OK' is hard to take seriously.
Did not know this. I will leave it at that.
 

Alchemedia

Decomposer
You're clearly not aware of his vendetta against 8Dio who he has cruelly called 'H8Dio' and apparently refuses to review any more of their products.

And any composer who calls Tundra just 'OK' is hard to take seriously.
I'm not sure what your problem is with Corey, however, his opinions are of course subjective as are yours and deeming something "OK" is hardly outrageous or controversial. Why should he feel the need to review 8DIO products if he isn't fond of them? Besides, I don't think Troels needs help marketing.
 

Flintpope

Sound designer and seller of BRILLO
What would be your most disappointing library purchase of 2017?

I would say mine is probably Output's complete bundle. I just don't use it anywhere near as much as I was expecting.
2021 now... Straylight for Kontakt. I was lured in by the videos, bought it and was totally amazed by the technicality of it then never used it... it just doesn't act like an instrument, rather a set of one note sound fx (bit like a lot of my Reaktor ensembles...)
 

Alchemedia

Decomposer
It depends on whether he's trying to be a critic, in which case "not my thing" isn't the same as "horrible and disappointing library", or whether he's trying to be a Youtuber, in which case "not my thing" is exactly the same as "horrible and disappointing library".
It's all subjective on YouTube where everyone is a self-proclaimed authority and discerning between "critic" and "YouTuber/influencer" when most are selling an illusion is a challenge.
 

Hendrixon

Senior New
And any composer who calls Tundra just 'OK' is hard to take seriously.
giphy.webp
 

bill5

Senior Member
Points taken, but how are fans of 8Dio, or worse, 8Dio staff themselves, meant to take your comment Max? Cory called 8Dio H8Dio, there is no contesting that.
That doesn't mean it should be repeated elsewhere (like here). No offense, I just agree with max. Focusing on an individual this way just invites conflict and hissy fits, and God knows our society is overflowing with those as it is. Can we get back to disappointing library purchases?
 
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