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Most Disappointing Library Purchase?

Discussion in 'SAMPLE Talk' started by tsk, Feb 9, 2018.

  1. kitekrazy

    kitekrazy Senior Member

    Dec 23, 2008
    Will do. I only have Strings Gold and looking at the articulations one has to me more familiar with string orchestration. Of course you can also use your ears.
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  2. GtrString

    GtrString Senior Member

    Dec 10, 2016
    I refer to this part from the EULA “PLEASE NOTE: The samples may not be included, whether unmodified or as part of a derivative work, in any music library or sample library product.” http://www.bigfishaudio.com/detail.html?1;24;1::::::::::::Epic drums:1391

    What do you think I am mistaken about? The definition of what could be understood as a product in any music library or sample library?

    I get the sample library part, of course, but a music library is defined like this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_library and therefore Im not allowed to use this instrument in production music tracks, which (usually) are signed to production music libraries.

    If there are just a shadow of a doubt of what a “music library” means, I cant use the product as it will be a liability for the parties I work with. So, I have never dared to use the thing. But yes, I should have read the EULA, so it is my responsability.

    It is the only time Ive found an EULA like this though. Not sure what the point is, but perhaps they have reasons. I have moved on to more important matters.
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2018
  3. Kony

    Kony Senior Member

    Jul 29, 2016
    This is the significant bit - what they're saying is you can't post the samples raw or in an already copyrighted track. You are allowed to use them in your own original production tracks.
  4. GtrString

    GtrString Senior Member

    Dec 10, 2016
    Yeah that would be standard practice, but what are you making of the last part of the sentence “... in any music library or sample library product”?
  5. Kony

    Kony Senior Member

    Jul 29, 2016
    I've read the whole EULA and it says you can use the samples in your own copyrighted work and sell those works. They have a standard protection clause for preventing the re-selling of their raw samples or for their use in a copyright infringing track.
  6. star.keys

    star.keys Senior Member

    May 7, 2012
    LASS, EW Symphonic Orchestra, Spitfire Albion One, 8Dio 1928 Piano
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  7. Leo

    Leo Member

    Oct 14, 2011
    My ugly and disappointing library which I have never used:
    East West - Ghostwriter, SD3
    Cinesamples: Tina Guo Cello (full lib.)
    Impact soundworks: Jugernaut
    Spitfire audio: Artisan cello
  8. axb312

    axb312 Senior Member

    Jun 26, 2016
    :(. Still waiting. 8DIO sale on right now I think.
  9. 98bpm

    98bpm Member

    Sep 10, 2017
    I would have to say, mine would be:
    1. Xsample Alto Sax.... the demos were awesome, but listening to it on its own exposed a lot of baked in room acoustics and there's phasing issues when crossfading non-vibrato to vibrato. Had high hopes for that one.:sad:

    2. Precision Sounds Retro Gadgets Bundle.... Some of the worst editing EVER!
    3. Wavesfactory Suspended Cymbals.... Cool concept, but the background noise makes it completely unusable. Still like the cymbal FX samples, but other than that - dud.
    4. UVI Ultra Mini, UVS 3200, Drumulation and Emulation II.... These are actually pretty good, but I hated that you need UVI Workstation that doesn't allow you to save preset changes without so much footwork. First time dealing with them, so live and learn to deal with it.
    5. Lastly actually goes back to 2015 when I bought Vocalizer Pro from Sonivox. Sure, it's an audio effect plugin, but since it has a built-in synth, I think it qualifies. That experience with Sonivox was sooooo bad, they should get out of the business!:mad:
  10. Zoot_Rollo

    Zoot_Rollo -

    Jul 1, 2016
    i do too, i think it is excellent (Intimate Textures) - especially with the 10% off.

    perfect layering tool.
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  11. C-Wave

    C-Wave Senior Member

    Feb 27, 2016
    Spitfire Andy Findons Kitbag 2 library. five woodwinds; all missing a big chuck of the range! A technique Spitfire seems to get away with (probably to save some of the cost) by sampling only part of the complete range of the instrument. The Bansuri specially seems like a joke of a sample; sounds nothing like a bansuri.
  12. oliverd

    oliverd Active Member

    Sep 21, 2017
    Anything Sonivox or Air Music Tech is just absolutely woeful. They have some OK synths but dear god their customer service is terrible/non-existent!
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  13. Vovique

    Vovique Senior Member

    Aug 11, 2013
    Actually it does say so:
    "PLEASE NOTE: The samples may not be included, whether unmodified or as part of a derivative work, in any music library or sample library product."
    But Big Fish stated here on VIC that they removed the "music library" restriction out of the EULA for all their products, though it would take long to update every individual product page because of the vast number of products.
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  14. asinclaire

    asinclaire New Member

    Dec 22, 2017
    Spitfire and inconsistency; name a more iconic duo.
  15. Hans Josef

    Hans Josef Senior Member

    Jun 4, 2007
    I think you mean the two dimensional preset with xfade from vibrato to senza vibrato. This can't be perfectly done. So we think to remove these special presets. If you want, you can get a refund.
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  16. Quasar

    Quasar Senior Member

    Jun 26, 2012
    If I could trade my Fluffy Audio Trio Broz Solo Strings for Fluffy's Solo Winds, I would. Never connected well with the strings and have since replaced them with others I like better. But the WWs get rave reviews and the demos sound really warm and expressive.
  17. ChrisSiuMusic

    ChrisSiuMusic Member

    Dec 21, 2017
    How do you like the tone of Cinewinds vs. Berlin? Especially for a cinematic Disney style sound?
  18. Jimmy Hellfire

    Jimmy Hellfire Senior Member

    Jun 28, 2015
    Not that much comes to mind. Almost all these libraries come with glaring flaws, but that's something one puts up with because there's a lot to like about them as well. But I guess I would have to name Spitfire Albion ONE. It's nothing like the Legacy Albion (meaning: warm, lively, charming, beautiful) and sounds really overprocessed, synthy and, with the exception of a few patches, just not very good.
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  19. DarkestShadow

    DarkestShadow Senior Member

    Bit of a old post but... anybody cares to tell me what tons there are to learn about Hollywood Strings? I keep hearing that...
    I'm playing they keys, heavily ride the modwheel (ahem...) and... that's it. I'm still happy with it all around and don't hear a ton of stuff others do with it that I wouldn't know how to do as well. Well, by playing and going nuts on the modwheel. :P
    Also gonna have a look at the manual now (never touched it) - maybe there are indeed some magical functions that... maybe transform me into the cat of some top-model or so... :whistling: (please!)
  20. 98bpm

    98bpm Member

    Sep 10, 2017
    That's very generous, but I have no idea how hard it must be to put all that together and I'm sure a lot of time and effort went into it. So, even though I may not be able to use it like I wanted, I think I still may have a place for it here and there so no refund needed. Thanks for the offer. Very kind of you.
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