Lyle Murphy Books

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  1. gsilbers

    gsilbers Part of

    Oct 5, 2008
    Los Angeles
    cool. maybe an EIS teacher can be a guest a in a rick beatos video and see where it goes? im sure he is dying to find more content ideas . EIS would be cool.
  2. d.healey

    d.healey Music Monkey

    Nov 2, 2011
    Why not do it as a video/livestream? Then everyone can get an idea of what it is no-matter where they are.
  3. I think that’s a good idea. We need a way to execute it in a relatable fashion.
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  4. Farkle

    Farkle Senior Member

    Dec 20, 2008
    Philadelphia, PA

    Ooo, I like. Let me talk with Craig about it. That has legs!!

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  5. laurikoivisto

    laurikoivisto New Member

    May 3, 2015
    Helsinki, Finland
    I thought Farkle didn't drink :rofl:
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  6. InLight-Tone

    InLight-Tone Senior Member

    Dec 31, 2013
    It seems to be a thing with loner composers...:emoji_cocktail::emoji_wine_glass::emoji_beers:
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  7. FriFlo

    FriFlo Senior Member

    Jun 13, 2011
    Come on! "Ferkel"? You intentionally made that typo, because you know German ...
  8. Blackster

    Blackster Senior Member

    Not mostly, but completely! And also for the records, yes, I graduated from EIS but also studied the traditional Diatonic System at university and with many other instructors! For that reason, we start with the Diatonic approach and go from there by injecting interval theory to create more freedom.

    And everything we do, we keep it very transparent on our website and in all conversations. We offer free materials and free lessons from actual courses inside the membership area. Everybody will know exactly what this is all about and what MITA brings to the table:


    Actually, I wrote a blog post about my own personal WHY I created MITA in the first place. This might be interesting for some of you, that's why I'm sharing this.

    One of our CITs (composers in training) was so kind and also publish a report of how he uses MITA techniques. This might also be interesting:
    Last edited: Mar 10, 2019
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  9. douggibson

    douggibson Active Member

    Jan 9, 2016
    Well now MITA has chimed in. 1-on-1 MITA lessons are $135 USD (120 euro).

    The site says 66 lessons, plus an active membership.
    So 66 X 135 = $8,910 USD.
    Plus a $325 membership = $9,235 USD.

    The point is this is pretty much what is going to be the price for lessons.
    Since each have devoted a considerable amount of time/energy in making their own proprietary materials then a premium price can be expected.
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  10. Blackster

    Blackster Senior Member

    Well, not all of our subscribed members take lessons as this is optional. You can learn a lot of MITA concepts and their application only by becoming a member and not taking lessons at all.

    However, one always has to consider the value of what you will be getting and therefore, we are offering many free materials. Also, the risk is rather low as you can go lesson after lesson and quit at any time if it's not for you.

    The goal of any truthful and honest business is to provide as much value as possible to the client and not to sell at any cost. If I knew what your musical plans are I can tell very clearly wether MITA can help you to get there or not.

    But for those who want focus more on prices than value, there's a great quote that comes to my mind: education costs money and so does ignorance :) ...

    But don't worry, we'll continue to deliver value for free in forms of free materials on the website and live streams as this is the only way to communicate what you're standing for and why it's unique :)
  11. FriFlo

    FriFlo Senior Member

    Jun 13, 2011
    That is of course true, but it is a bit general ...
    In Europe, you genreally get high class education for free, as this is mostly the philosophy of most people here that this should be the case. For certain fields that high class education is not open to anyone, it requires certain prerequisites like school grades or rather passing a test for most of musical studies. Therefore, other institutions, that cost money, partly fully funded by tuition, partly subsidized partially by the state, are a secondary option for those who could not study at a university or want to expand on certain topics.
    In the US, this seems to be completely different. Only the most talented people get the chance of free education at this level through scholarship.
    So, what price seems reasonable for which education seems dependent quite a bit on where on the world you live and what your basic education in the field of music was.
    In my case, I already studied music and on top of that film scoring. Taking another class to broaden my horizon or choosing not to pursue that hardly will result in ignorance. For someone who did not study music before or maybe only learned raw basics this might be completely different of course ...
  12. FriFlo

    FriFlo Senior Member

    Jun 13, 2011
    And to be clear on that: I do not write that to mock EIS, nor to mock MITA ... It is just a general observation from my background. I offer music lessons, mostly piano. But sometimes I also get asked to prepare people for university tests in music (ear training and theory). Sometimes, people want to take private lesson in composition (for film) as well. Here in Europe, I always recommend them to apply for their desired field at a university, if they are able to. It is not to say, that private tuition is always worse, but the money you have to put into a private education (including instrumental lessons etc ...) is quite steep and I wouldn't want anyone to be left with a huge pile of debt, that is very hard to pay back, especially in the field of music!
    Basically, all the conversation and argument here is so much dependent on the individual prerequisites, that it does not make much sense to discuss it without taking these into account.
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  13. chillbot

    chillbot Forum Bot

    Feb 6, 2014
    La Canada Flintridge, CA
    This is true. Though it was @Hannes_F who taught it to me.
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