John has the best feedback so far on this thread. Particularly in the area of what not to do - and listen to a lot of royalty-free music sources if you want to find out what not to do.Aim to write music that YOU think is absolutely killer / cool / love to hear it again. Something you'd be willing to hire players to perform. Learn to orchestrate and mix if you don't know how; even a little incremental skill there is helpful.
If you follow your instincts and taste, at least if nobody else likes it, you have honoured what's inside you, what makes you unusual or special. And chances are if it's really great to you, there will be others who will agree.
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A pale, sample-based imitation of someone else's work is only going to attract bargain hunters and sink in the morass of "other."
The short answer is maybe. If you really think your music could be targeted more in the area of documentary, I'd suggest researching recent popular TV docu-series on PBS, Netflix/Amazon or elsewhere to see where they source their material. Then write some of the best music you think could accompany those types of series and reach out to those libraries directly if they accept unsolicited music.I am interested in contemporary orchestral and neo-classical music. Stuff like olafur arnaulds, johan johansson, any Andy Blaney SF demo, etc. If I could compose music like that for libraries I would really enjoy it, but I’m not sure how much use my tracks would get. Perhaps music you’d find in nature documentary or something. I’m not sure.
My question is basically, could someone make a full time income writing library music in sort of a niche style such as neo-classical? I’m fairly new to all of this so I figured I’d reach out. Many thanks
yeah i totally agree. as someone who is coming from a day job environment rather than a trained educated musician i can honestly say after 4 years in this game the production music business is no different to the world of traditional business as in its all about the relationships you form with people that will help you have a career. that's why i would only advise working with exclusive labels that work on albums and concepts. you will be working with actual people who know you as a composer and not just a wav on a website and they will get to know your strengths and weaknesses as a composer. this can lead to custom work if you're lucky or collaborations with other composers to improve your skill set in those areas you may be weaker. i would still be very positive about this industry but maybe people may need to manage their expectations a bit. start with smaller goals such as maybe this becoming a part time income and then go from there. personally i think people getting into library music for the first time this year probably wouldn't be able to earn enough to survive in a modern western country such as the US (anything $50k or more) but i think if you're planning to be a full time musician you should be diversifying anyway.That's how I imagine uploading to royalty-free libraries can be like. It's quite a bit different when working with exclusive libraries. Then you'll work together with A&R-people, developing concepts for new albums, discussing tracks and how to improve them etc. Building good working relationships plays an important part. It also involves contacting libraries you'd like to work with, following up, frequently being turned down or not hearing back. But if you are in with a good library it can be very rewarding.
You can write the music that you want to write. You can work at your own pace - no crazy deadlines. It takes time to build a steady stream of income, but if you stop writing music the tracks that you have out there will still generate money for some time. The libraries take care of the admin work (titling, meta-tagging, registering tracks with a pro, artwork), and will promote your tracks, so you can focus on writing music.
It's certainly not for everyone. But for me it is a very nice way to create some income from writing music. It gives you a lot of freedom, both creatively and in terms of workload. It's work that easily integrates with other jobs because you get to choose when and how much you work at any time. And, apart from generating royalties, seeing placements for your music can be highly motivating.
Yes, this is good advice.that's why i would only advise working with exclusive labels that work on albums and concepts. you will be working with actual people who know you as a composer and not just a wav on a website and they will get to know your strengths and weaknesses as a composer.
*I think time can't be bought back, choices are made, sacrifices are made one way or the other, but please, oh please just stop being a walking internet cliché : for instance : I am 36 years old, I have 2 sisters and a brother and we get along famously, I spent my life between music, the family business, taking care of my brother when he had cancer then taking care of my dad when he was sick, has been for 10 years, I do library music because it's more flexible, doing all this while being ask every single year ''Why don't you have kids, etc etc, cat lady, yada yada'' Meanwhile, a lot of my friends have kids, bundle of joy : divorce, battle for custody, etc, some make it, some don't, a friend of mine has not slept for 3 years and is in burnout because of the baby.No, instead they pursued a meaningful family life.
Studies are showing time and again now that childless and unmarried people, especially women, wind up unhappier even with successful careers.
Breastfeeding and having more babies is found to cut the risk of depression in women significantly, especially later in life. Studies have also found that the happiest demographic is as follows:
- 39 years old
- Household income between $150,000 and $200,000
- In a senior management position
- 1 young child at home
- A wife who works part-time
As the kids say: "oof".
- 42 years old
- Unmarried (and no children)
- Household income under $100,000
- In a professional position (doctor, lawyer, etc.)
Selling your soul to corporations and "careers" is not more virtuous and fulfilling than getting married and raising a family. Something becoming increasingly difficult on traditional jobs.
Trust me, you think it will, but the time will come where you'll realize that the fact you do X for a living doesn't fill this hole inside your life that comes from failing to fulfill your biological purpose and have a successful home life.
If you have to choose between dream job and happy family life, pick the latter.
But we're off topic. Join me in arguing this in the politics section if you like.
The subject of divorce, which the system ostensibly encourages or at least makes it extremely easy for women to cut and run with absolutely no collateral damage to her, and why the divorce rate is high, is a subject for an entirely different thread,Meanwhile, a lot of my friends have kids, bundle of joy : divorce, battle for custody, etc, some make it, some don't, a friend of mine has not slept for 3 years and is in burnout because of the baby.
This argument holds up when you have a one-off or small sample size, but the problem is that data yields repeated results, from different and large sample groups; meaning the trend is a real phenomenon. Time and again. It's also very easy to find plenty of examples around you.So : my point is : internet gives you the feel of ''studies have found, path in life, idealism'' perception of a huge check list like you did earlier.
Well, that's goodThat being said, not ever getting out of a man-cave has consequences too, I'm aware of that.
...and yes! There is a cat in my life too, they quite enjoy music!
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I'd not have guessed, since your written English is just fine.Ah ok, sorry, didn't mean to sound abrasive here, english is a second language, you mean like a maid of honor.
Wimenz running away from you and the system is helping them too! Such a scandal.The subject of divorce, which the system ostensibly encourages or at least makes it extremely easy for women to cut and run with absolutely no collateral damage to her, and why the divorce rate is high, is a subject for an entirely different thread
Just because those numbers don't apply to you, or at least not yet, doesn't mean they don't apply to most. That's what everyone keeps missing in this conversation.Statistics are nice and all, but numbers are only numbers.
And numbers don't mean a thing out of context.
A conditioned attitude preached to the masses since the dawn of the baby boomer generation.children are annoying and time-consuming, marriage is a broken
system and my partner feels the same on all points.
See, to me, *that* is a conditioned attitude.Just because those numbers don't apply to you, or at least not yet, doesn't mean they don't apply to most. That's what everyone keeps missing in this conversation.
And a lot of people think they're the exception to the rule until they're past the point of no return. Which is why I again say: OP needs to check his expectations. "I could make 30k work", yeah well...good luck even ever making that much.
So for everyone who is willing to let all these ships sail for music, we'll meet back here in 10 - 20 years and see if "Mittens" is still enough for you. I've seen it more than enough to doubt it.
A conditioned attitude preached to the masses since the dawn of the baby boomer generation.
You're absolutely right, I've been living my life wrong. I'll go knock up my partner, get rid of ourYeah, except the thing I've seen is repeatedly backed up by mountains of real data. Which makes it more sound advice.
It's like, imagine you're in the passenger seat, and your friend in the driver's starts texting. Then you're like "Dude, stop! You're gonna get us killed!" and he's like "Oh, lighten up! I've done this a million times, you just have to be careful!" Then when you say "Yeah, but like, statistically speaking a huge number of car accid-" and then he interjects with "Neeerrrrrrrd"
That's this conversation, and I'm in the passenger seat.