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Let's Get Up to Date: Favorite Vibraphone VSTs

dzilizzi

I know nothing
+1 on SonicCouture's, though I want to say there's another one I like as well. Have to check my libraries....
 

cug

LA Composer
Being a massive fan of Bernard Herrmann, I use vibraphone regularly in my writing

Which Vibraphone is your favorite?
Me too. I use the SC when I want the motor vibes effect. But I also use the HHS. Sometimes the vibes from VSL Special Edition ends up in my final mix.
 

gussunkri

Member
Being a massive fan of Bernard Herrmann, I use vibraphone regularly in my writing (mostly the BHCT patches, but GPO and even Kontakt Library sometimes). I have also the free Vibromaster which can be useful.

Which Vibraphone is your favorite?

As always, I come here to vi control first when I'm looking for reliable opinions :)
In what context do you find the vibes in BHCT insufficient?
 

gussunkri

Member
Abstracting the patch from the Trumpet can be non-workable in some contexts. In that case I'll use the other libs for solo vib.
Isn't it the xylophone which is layered with the trumpet? I thought vibraphone was layered with harp... (not at my studio computer so I can't check).
 

ProfoundSilence

Senior Member
berlin perc has motor on and motor off, as does cine perc.

I think both offer 2 speeds as well.

that said, sampling the motor on has ups and downs - considering if you play multiple notes at once, they might be in sync - but if you add another note - it most likely wont be.
 

gamma-ut

Active Member
I thought the Soniccouture Vibes are motor off only. I love their stuff but that was a dealbreaker for me.
SC uses a tremolo controlled by an LFO that crossfades between samples to simulate motor-on. So it does motor-on, but it's not sampled directly to avoid the problem of samples not syncing up.

Fluffy uses a Kontakt filter (LFO controlled, mapped to mod wheel) to do it.
 

paoling

Developer
If I may. The filter thing is the way to go. The fact is that there are some sound changes that can't be achieved with crossfading. For example, if you try to crossfade between a choir singing an A and an O you don't get the sound of that choir changing between the A and O. That is why we never crossfade between different vowels in Dominus.

I learnt this thing the hard way when doing our didgeridoo. In the beginning we have sampled just the vowels. Then we realized that crossfading between them wasn't getting us the typical didgeridoo sound. The way we achieved that is by using a resonant filter bank to morph the vowels while crossfading. It is cool, not 100% real as a loop library, but a lot more versatile. Hence the name DidgHybridoo.

The sound of a vibraphone vibrato is similar to a Wah-wah pedal of a guitar. If you sample the two states of the pedal and crossfade between them, you won't get the wah wah effect at all.

It is the movement of the filter that gives the sound.

So Soniccuture vibraphone may be better or worse for the sound, the number of layers and the functionality, but crossfading to get the vibrato is the wrong way to go.

(also sampling the vibrato motor on is weird, because the phases for the notes will be all different and unsynced)
 

Rv5

Senior Member
We recorded valves open and valves closed and use a filtering crossfade between the two, synced so it sounds as natural as can be, there is a transition that isn't captured and agree with @paoling this needs to be recreated somewhat. Will post some tech demos up in a couple weeks so you can hear the trem in action more clearly. This means there's then the option of trem/motor on (with speed control) and off, as well as valves closed and valves open presenting different timbres.


We may go back in deep (Rosehip Vibes focus on the softer dynamics) where there's a whole other world to explore recreating playing style on the vibraphone.
 

Hans Adamson

Senior Member
If you want the Milt Jackson sound, consider Art Vista's Cool Vibes. The samples are true stereo recordings of a vibe with the motor engaged. The tempo and overall sound was set to match that of Milt Jackson (Modern Jazz Quartet):
 

Mark Schmieder

Senior Member
Muletone Audio just released a vibes lib today, for $30 as I recall.

More details later; I'm working super-intensely at my "day job" on math/physic/mech-eng at the moment, into 3am hours and beyond, so am barely skimming emails and not really checking product pages until HOPEFULLY the weekend (when I'm busy gigging, but might have some free time).

My guess at that price, is that it won't cover some of the motor on/off type issues that have come up, but it doubtless will be well recorded and played, like the rest of the series.
 

Mark Schmieder

Senior Member
That's what I thought, but I deferred to the person who seemed to have done the homework, as I haven't the time right now. I frankly can't think of any flaws in Soniccouture's, other than the extra challenge in playing and/or editing, which is in the nature of the instrument itself.

I wasn't impressed by the new one, but generally don't like Musser's vibes (though I'm OK with their marimbas). I'm also spoiled by the Soniccouture library, but imagine the Muletone lib is a good buy for someone just starting, or on a budget, It was well-played and recorded properly, but is lower-featured. Great developer though, and they sometimes update their libraries, which not every vendor does.
 
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