Learning to structure

Svyato

Member
Hey everyone :)

Before getting started in making score and orchestral music with a D.A.W. , I was used to play improvisation music as a bassist, a keyboard player and a drummer.
I enjoy feeling incoming ideas. But putting those ideas into a structured and progressive track is a new challenge for me.

So, I have some difficulties for getting my tracks easily structured.

:) Would you have some advices? Or track-example that would have some basical structure and could fit to most of the musical genre? For example, do you use some reference tracks for getting your structure?
I like every kind of music, so, I'm open to any kind of easy structure for orchestral / electronic / scoring music. :)

Any kind of structuring advice is very well welcomed.


ps: sorry for my english x)

have a very great saturday !! :D
 

Smikes77

My Avatar looks just like me
You have lots of options...

The long structure of Pop/contemporary etc music can go:

INTRO
VERSE
PRE CHORUS
CHORUS
VERSE
PRE CHORUS
CHORUS
MIDDLE 8
PRE CHORUS
CHORUSX2

Or you can strip that down to :

VERSE
CHORUS
VERSE
CHORUS
MIDDLE 8
CHORUS

Or mix it up:

VERSE
PRE CHORUS
CHORUS
VERSE
CHORUS
MIDDLE 8
CHORUS

For orchestration stuff I tend to stick to an A A B A format.

Hope this helps!
 
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Svyato

Svyato

Member
You have lots of options...

The long structure of Pop/contemporary etc music can go:

INTRO
VERSE
PRE CHORUS
CHORUS
VERSE
PRE CHORUS
CHORUS
MIDDLE 8
PRE CHORUS
CHORUSX2

Or you can strip that down to :

VERSE
CHORUS
VERSE
CHORUS
MIDDLE 8
CHORUS

Or mix it up:

VERSE
PRE CHORUS
CHORUS
VERSE
CHORUS
MIDDLE 8
CHORUS

For orchestration stuff I tend to stick to an A A B A format.

Hope this helps!
Thanks for you answer Smikes77 :)
I have two question: what does "MIDDLE 8" mean? And also, would you have any track/ piece example that would have the A A B A format you speak about? Thanks a lot :)
 

Hugh Harrer

New Member
"Middle 8" is also called "The Bridge". And it is certainly not always 8 bars.
It's called a "Bridge" because it generally bridges the final 2 choruses.
Lyrically it can be an alternative view or a wrap up of the subject.
Musically it gives a break form all the repetition.
And, of course, it also gives you a less annoying way to SLAM your chorus home a few more times :sneaky:.
 

AdamAlake

Music Person
What structures are most commonly used in film scores of the golden age, such as the works of Williams, Horner, Silvestri, Vince di Cole?
 

mc_deli

n trepreneur
"Middle 8" is also called "The Bridge". And it is certainly not always 8 bars.
It's called a "Bridge" because it generally bridges the final 2 choruses.
Is it though?
Didn't bridge equal pre-chorus for many?
Wasn't it called bridge because it originally bridged the verse and chorus?
And then it confusingly became synonymous with middle 8 in popular times...?