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Koto 13

Discussion in 'SAMPLE Talk' started by Mr. Edinburgh, Sep 13, 2018.

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  1. Mr. Edinburgh

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  2. Zee

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    I believe it's the best on the market but i rarely get to use it
     
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  3. Sid Francis

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    Very impressed by the audio demos. Listen to the first one!
     
  4. axb312

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    A similar instrument you could check out is the Guzheng from the Evolution world series. Pretty extensively sampled and 30-40 % off during sales.
     
  5. Sid Francis

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    I got three Guzhengs and they are quite different in sound and appeal. I would prefer this one here before all others...but not for this price
    :-(
     
  6. Lode_Runner

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    Wow Koto 13 sounds beautiful.

    Another much more affordable Koto option is available from Premier SoundFactory: http://www.premiersoundfactory.com/kaguya/ (you need to scroll down the page. When I first loaded it, all I could see was the picture and white space beneath it - the page looked like it was just a jpg, so I didn't even think of scrolling :blush:)

    And Impact Soundworks also have Koto Nation.

    As Sid said Guzhengs sound fairly different. The one from Evolution Series is very nice. SonicCouture also have one, and so do Best Service. There's also a Dan Tranh from Bolder Sounds (another related instrument from Vietnam) lovely, but once again it's a different sound.
     
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  7. LamaRose

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    Talk about authentic sounding. @Zee Wondering if it's possible to emulate a realistic bass koto with the built-in tone/scale functions? I realize the issue with 13 versus 17 strings, so I'm really asking about the tone.
     
  8. EvilDragon

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    Another product done by yours truly (TM). :)

    I also think they are charging too much for it, so Kaguya would also definitely be worth checking out - it does sound wonderful as well. Both come from Japanese developers, so they should know about authenticity :)
     
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    Thanks for this link my friend - this koto looks really nice - are you satisfied with it - is t a safe website to but from?
     
  10. Fab

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    Ha, that's pretty cool. Do you help out with a lot of their stuff?
     
  11. EvilDragon

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    Nope, I just did that one back when I worked with Umlaut Audio (Sonica contacted them for library building expertise).
     
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    I think their Octave down option is brilliant while it only works with their predetermined set of scales(24) you also get to choose the key. to answer your question about the tone personally, I think it comes very close to what a 17 strings can do in terms of consistency across all articulations as well that being said the lowest I was able to get was A1 so getting that open string low sustained sound that a 17 strings excels at isn't as good with this one
     
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    +1 @EvilDragon & @Zee for the info! The Kaguya looks like a winner, but it's 96kHz and I'm full-time laptop. Maybe they can provide a down sampled version.
     
  14. EvilDragon

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    Shouldn't be a problem if it's 96k... Kontakt resamples in realtime, plus koto isn't terribly polyphony hungry... you should be fine even on a laptop. It's 5 GB, which again isn't terrible.
     
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  15. Lode_Runner

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    I haven't bought it yet, it's on my black friday wish list. I haven't heard anything negative about the company.
     
  16. JohnG

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    I don't think the sonica Koto 13 is all that expensive, considering what you get. People pay a lot for guitar or harp sample sets.

    Not a freebie either! But it looks very good.
     
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  17. JohnG

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    As it turns out I have a project coming up and I'll want one of these. Deciding between Koto 13 and the Kayuga, if anyone feels like weighing in.

    It looks as though Koto 13 has three independent mic positions, plus a stereo mix, so that's a pretty big plus. On the other hand, the Kayuga includes a non-traditional bass Koto, and I like those kinds of "extensions" of traditional instruments.

    Honestly it's amazing what choices and sounds we have these days.
     
  18. heisenberg

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    Hi John,

    I have Kaguya. Sound is remarkable. You really have to know how to play a Koto with Kaguya bouncing back & forth through keyswitching to get any articulation beyond the straight playing unaffected notes. No hand holding. It is roll up your sleeves and invest the time to learn how to really play it. Have a careful look at this video. It may give you a sense of what I am talking about...



    From what I can gather from the Koto 13 there is a more of a stacking of standard articulations without as much keyswitching and utilizing key pressure for typical expression.



    Looks like I will be picking up the Koto 13.

    As has been mentioned, Soniccouture's Guzheng, the Chinese equivalent instrument is a joy to play and you can easily flip it into proper tuning, if that is your desire. But I imagine authenticity is paramount with your needs.

    -Andrew

    Reason for edit: spelling
     
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  19. JohnG

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    Thanks @heisenberg -- very helpful.

    So far, I'm preferring the sound of the Koto 13, so that's probably going to be the decision.

    Yes, you would think authenticity would be number one, but actually -- not as much as I would have assumed.
     
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  20. garyhiebner

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    Koto 13 sounds amazing. Pity the price is pretty high.
     

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