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Just dived into Audio Imperia for the first time!

mutex said:
OK, I just got Areia as well 😊
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I was about to reply :P It's a great library, and with the current sale price + loyalty it really is a steal... It definitely has its own sound (in terms of tone), but I tend to blend string libraries anyway... You could for example blend a little bit of them in with BBCSO for a natural sound that has more focus, or you could blend a little BBCSO underneath of Areia to soften it up a bit...

Basically you don't have to think of your libraries as necessarily being either or. String libraries are especially easy to blend together... Speaking of which... You might want to try layering Nucleus's solos underneath Ariea, you might try layering them underneath BBCSO as well. Layering solos with ensembles is a really common approach to make ensemble instruments sound more focused in the mix... It can also make things sound more believable.
 
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The violin legato patches on Areia have a nasty scrape noise on the G3 note. it always bothered me. You can avoid it by lowering the vibrato (but then you don't get a lot of vibrato).
 
irises said:
The violin legato patches on Areia have a nasty scrape noise on the G3 note. it always bothered me. You can avoid it by lowering the vibrato (but then you don't get a lot of vibrato).
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I will say, I have noticed a few things like this (think B3 was the one that stuck out to me?), and one or two slightly dodgy legato transitions, just between certain specific intervals - but really only a few small things like this, and nothing I haven't been able to smooth over so far - overall, nothing that detracts in any significant way from how great this library sounds and how easy it is to use.

V2 overlay on the violins performance legato would be good tho!!
 
Talos seems to be hugely discounted right now on the AI website, from $399 down to $99. I don’t own any other AI products but am tempted to jump on this. I don’t see Talos mentioned much on VI-C. I guess I have a bit of homework to do with walkthrough videos and reviews :-)
 
carlc said:
Talos seems to be hugely discounted right now on the AI website, from $399 down to $99. I don’t own any other AI products but am tempted to jump on this. I don’t see Talos mentioned much on VI-C. I guess I have a bit of homework to do with walkthrough videos and reviews :-)
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It’s narrowly scoped and priced about twice what it should be when not on sale. That being said, if you’re looking for massive sounding over-the-top horns and low brass, it’s one of the best in that area.
 
alligatorlizard said:
I will say, I have noticed a few things like this (think B3 was the one that stuck out to me?), and one or two slightly dodgy legato transitions, just between certain specific intervals - but really only a few small things like this, and nothing I haven't been able to smooth over so far - overall, nothing that detracts in any significant way from how great this library sounds and how easy it is to use.

V2 overlay on the violins performance legato would be good tho!!
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B3 is tolerable. G3 is a real problem. Even If I'm not using it, it hunts me knowing he's there.👻
 
Damn, this thread is tempting. I've got Nucleus and CSS (and Chorus and Jaeger vocals by AI). I never used the strings of Nucleus again after purchasing CSS. But with the legato update and the discounts I'm at 142 $. Maaaan but I still don't know ...
 
jenssieckmann said:
Damn, this thread is tempting. I've got Nucleus and CSS (and Chorus and Jaeger vocals by AI). I never used the strings of Nucleus again after purchasing CSS. But with the legato update and the discounts I'm at 142 $. Maaaan but I still don't know ...
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I don't think you really need Areia if you own CSS. You should be covered in terms of articulations.

Strings try to achieve the Stradivari sound, so in the end they all converge and sound similar. What you really get with another library is a different recording room (reverb) and mix (EQ, mic position).

Vocals on the other hand (especially solos) are very unique and probably better having more of than strings.

 
mutex said:
OK, I just got Areia as well 😊
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And me as well!

Oh and did I mention I also bought Jeager. There is a lot of overlap but also lots of things from each one that are just wow. I love Areia and now my go-to strings.

Brass, Vocals and Sound Design stuff all coming for Jeager. Haven't looked too much into Nuclear so far but seems it has everything but still discovering where it shines!

Now looking at layering libraries that blend well with Areia. Something room-y as Areia are focused and tight.
 
jcrosby said:
Areia's really really good. It's one of my top workhorse string libraries since buying it 2-3 years ago. It's a fully capable string library that's miles ahead of what you can do with Nucleus' limited articulations. The multiple shorts are something I use all of the time, they're great for creating the impression that an ostinato is 'growing' as a cue develops... Layering the marcatos quietly underneath can be useful for making slow to medium tempo ostinatos feel bigger, less programmed, or more 'epic', etc.

Talos is wicked also. It's limited, in that it's only low brass and horns, but it does both exceptionally well. I paid at least twice the current sale price and still feel it was worth every penny because I use the low brass patch all of the time, and use the 12 horns very often as well... If you haven't watched the walkthrough on Talos I would, you should immediately be able to tell if its big, brash character is what you're after or not...

Jaeger's useful, but assuming money's something you're trying to be somewhat mindful of, I'd grab Talos now, and come back for Jaeger later if you're still interested... I also wouldn't be surprised if AI release a full blown brass library at some point. (Speculation obviously, but it does seem kind of inevitable when you look at how their product line has developed over the past 3-4 years)...

Here's an example of what they sound like in context... Other than the solo cello & violin, the strings are all Areia, the low brass & horns are Talos (This is pretty heavily mixed so keep in mind that the tone's slightly different...)

View attachment HOTD Targaryan Theme.mp4
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This is great. Reminds me of the Dragon theme from Game of Thrones. Lovely legatos and the brass sounds big as it should. I'm tempted by Tales however I'm thinking to get Cinebrass Pro while on offer just to get the 'Monster Low Brass' patch. I have it on trial but don't see it on there so maybe its Kontak only?

Can anyone confirm this?
 
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carlc said:
Talos seems to be hugely discounted right now on the AI website, from $399 down to $99. I don’t own any other AI products but am tempted to jump on this. I don’t see Talos mentioned much on VI-C. I guess I have a bit of homework to do with walkthrough videos and reviews :)
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I want the big low brass thing too but I think CineBrass Pro sounds better. Same lo-end but more midrange and open sounding. In two minds between the two....
 
Andrew Robinson said:
I want the big low brass thing too but I think CineBrass Pro sounds better. Same lo-end but more midrange and open sounding. In two minds between the two....
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Check out Infinite Brass from Aaron Venture.

You get all the individual brass instruments that you can play and build larger sections from if you want. A library where you have total control. You don't need to key-switch to access articulations. You just play the articulation you want.

 
Andrew Robinson said:
This is great. Reminds me of the Dragon theme from Game of Thrones.
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It is ;) ... It was me playing around with the Targaryen theme...

Lovely legatos and the brass sounds big as it should. I'm tempted by Tales however I'm thinking to get Cinebrass Pro while on offer just to get the 'Monster Low Brass' patch. I have it on trial but don't see it on there so maybe its Kontak only? Can anyone confirm this?
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It's in Musio, they just changed the name slightly. Search for "Cinebrass Low Brass".

Both libraries are great. Cinebrass can be big and brash as well. The low brass is similar to Talos... basically if that's the kind of brass library you're after, either one is a great choice... Cinebrass is a more complete library, so in that regard it's a better all around choice... Talos is worth getting if you already have a complete brass library and want to add in a little extra low grit. (But again, Cinebrass can be pretty aggressive too).
 
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Andrew Robinson said:
Hey one and all. New member, long time lurker :)

I've been composing production music for a long and have been recently interested in the 'Hybrid Epic' stuff and have been looking into the endless options out there!I have Spitfire ABOF for the more pop stuff / less busy basic stuff and I have some Sonixcinema Intimate Strings so that has me covered over in that corner.

for the more bigger, dense stuff I just picked up AI Nucleus as they have a decent BF sale. The OT Arks were sadly not on offer so this helped the decision making process! (Altho I intend to cherry pick sections through SINE as my needs grow)

My main question is, looking back at the AI store, there's some other specific sections such as the Areia (strings) and Talos (brass) that are on sale. Are these different to what is already in Nucleus, or do they complement as an add-on? Or maybe hold off and get the ARK Brass instead?

This hurts my brain
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Howdy, new member and long time lurker here too! I jumped up at the AI and then realized what you were writing about.
 
Trash Panda said:
Talos snarls harder, but CineBrass sounds beefier. @xguitaristx provided the best throwdown of all time between these two. :laugh:

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Sorry off topic but as it’s about Brass too so am asking this. Do you have Industry Brass too @Trash Panda ? I checked the Walkthru but felt it wasn’t done right. I even asked Cinesamples if they care doing another proper Walkthru, playing articulations as the way they’re meant to be played & covering all the instruments.
 
Guys, thinking about getting OT's Berlin Strings or Berling Symphonic Strings this BF too.

Which would be better to layer with Areia for trailer music if any??
 
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