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I've taken Classifieds out of "Latest/Recent Posts" feed

Quasar

Senior Member
I think the classifieds are great, have bought a few things, always with happy results.

I do, however, only consider buying from those who have a "track record" here other than simply posting sales. If I don't recognize the person I make a quick search of their past posts and see if they've had any sort of authentic presence on these boards as regular members who have ideas and opinions about things.
 

creativeforge

the plumber
Staff member
If I don't recognize the person I make a quick search of their past posts and see if they've had any sort of authentic presence on these boards as regular members who have ideas and opinions about things.

Bing! Bing! Bing! That's exactly how it should be. A very healthy habit! :)
 

leon chevalier

Piano roll musician
I think that's way too extreme. Many people often have many things they want to sell. What then? You have to wait for each item to sell one at a time? Could take months to sell a handful of items that would normally only take a week to sell. Having only one thread with everything makes sense but at the same time if you have a number of items, people might never see the thread and see something they'd like (since you wouldn't be able to list everything in the title).
Ok I might be too extreme ;) My point is : removing from the main feeds will drop the chance to sell.

If the problem is : "Mike do not want this sell forum anymore" He can do what he want, I'm fine with that.

If the problem is : "some people use it in a bad way" removing it from the main feeds sanctions the bad users and the gentlemen. Equally. So another way of solving that problem can be found.

Every law that sanction a majority because if a minority is wrongly made.

(I realize that my English is too poor for that kind of debate, I hope what I wrote made sens)

Anyway, at the end of the day, none of this is important, I think I'll manage to survive without my sell posts in the latest threads ;)

I love you all,

peace, love (and cinematic studio strings) to all

Leon :)
 
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synthpunk

Senior Member
I wanted to add that there a couple "regular" guys on there that are just impossible to buy from no matter how hard you try. It makes me laugh more than anything, usually. I do not think some of them want to sell to certain members, I have gotten the "I have a buyer for it" only to see it there weeks later still for sale or to point out that something is on sale on the manufacturer site cheaper than what they are asking only to be told to "go buy there then". I'm perfectly fine with talking to Mike about that if he cares to.
 
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chillbot

Sock Muppet
Agree most with Alex but I see arguments for both sides.

Mike I think really all you need is one mod for the section to maintain it proper and take away the burden from you, it would go back to how it was before but better. Make sure the 'classified mod' knows which libraries are possible to re-sell, and give him or her a lot of leeway to liberally remove posts that are suspect. After all as you point out there are a lot of other outlets for reselling. Make sure every post is properly labeled FS/WTB/whatever, it wouldn't be that hard.

OK if you insist, I will volunteer my services to mod this section. And all I'm going to ask in return is a 15% cut of every sale made. Fair?
 

Quasar

Senior Member
I love the classifieds and this move will make them die.

Why not make it so that new users either can't see or post in the classifieds until they've made x number of posts? Other forums do that and it works great.
Why not just go to the Classified section when you're specifically either looking to see what might be for sale, or to post a sale?

I don't see why it's a big deal either way...
 

synthpunk

Senior Member
Yep, that's how I surf the site anyways.

Why not just go to the Classified section when you're specifically either looking to see what might be for sale, or to post a sale?

I don't see why it's a big deal either way...
 

chillbot

Sock Muppet
Why not just go to the Classified section when you're specifically either looking to see what might be for sale, or to post a sale?
Yes, this makes sense of course.
I don't see why it's a big deal either way...
Because taking any forum out of the recent posts is a death sentence to that forum. You can debate whether the forum needs a shopping mall but you can't debate whether cutting off traffic will hurt the mall. And a lot of us really enjoy window shopping. How far can I take this dumb analogy?
 

Gerry

I sure don't feel like a Senior Member
There's a Classified section? No, of course there is... I ran across that once by accident.

But wait... there's a Latest Posts section?!?! [slaps forehead] Holy moly, look at that! There is! You just made my night! No more front page for me! :geek:

[Note: I should really take a good look around this place sometime...]
 

leon chevalier

Piano roll musician
Yes, this makes sense of course.

Because taking any forum out of the recent posts is a death sentence to that forum. You can debate whether the forum needs a shopping mall but you can't debate whether cutting off traffic will hurt the mall. And a lot of us really enjoy window shopping. How far can I take this dumb analogy?
Very true, I only use the last post browsing, and I'm sure most of the VI-Controlers do the same.
 

jtnyc

Senior Member
Personally, I like seeing what people are selling in latest posts. It's the latest posts section after all. If your going to remove them, then why not remove commercial announcements and deals deals deals as well as they are all focused on selling products.

I'd leave it as is. If someone wants subject specific threads, they can just go to the appropriate section.
 
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Mike Greene

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Ain't nothin' final yet, and I'll give it some thought, but ... since I took Classifieds out of the Latest Posts, there are 10 threads that saw action in the last 48 hours, so I don't think this has been a death knell.

More important in my view, those 10 posts no longer clutter the Latest Posts feed. (The word "clutter" is just my opinion, but I don't think I'm alone in that.) As it is now, someone logging in and checking Latest Posts needs to go all the way to Page 4 just to see all the posts in the last 24 hours. That's a lot of posts to scan! Honestly, I sometimes think the forum could afford to be a little less active. Unless you log in once or more per day, it's almost impossible to keep up. (Hence the newsletter.)

Back to the word "clutter" - here's the difference between a Classified ad and the Commercial Announcements or Deals, Deals, Deals posts: A classified "for sale" item is looking for ONE person to buy that item. Why should everybody have to see a WTB listing from somebody who wants Waves Platinum for cheap? A Commercial Announcement or Deal is targeted at lots of people. People want to know when a developer releases something.

Again, I'm not eliminating the section. It's right there, ready to be clicked on. If adding a second bookmark to your browser is too much effort, that's on you, not me.

I may be proven wrong, but I'm pretty confident the section will remain active. I seriously doubt people with things to sell are going to stop posting them here. Their alternatives are ebay, which will cost them money and has all the usual ebay problems, or Craigslist, which is only local, so pretty much useless. If someone posts an ad here on VI-C for a plug-in at a decent price, it's gonna sell, whether it's in the Latest Posts or not. Perhaps not as quickly, but it will sell.

So for now, we'll see how it goes.
 

amorphosynthesis

Active Member
I believe the word "forum" is derived from the Greek word "forum" meaning a place to meet and exchange ideas, services, goods......
Partially Irrelevant to the topic; Forum is actually a Latin word not greek, it used to be the Roman marketplace back then.
 

AlexRuger

rewgs
Why not just go to the Classified section when you're specifically either looking to see what might be for sale, or to post a sale?

I don't see why it's a big deal either way...

I don't think I've ever been specifically looking to buy something and then go "let's see if it's for sale on the VI Control classifieds!" Usually what I would buy is something used (actually, more like "by definition," not "usually"), or something I've filed away as a "want" in the back of my mind but haven't wanted enough to actually seek out. Instead I'd see the new post, get reminded of the thing, go "oh yeah I want that, let's see if I have enough cash at the moment..." and then buy it if the price is right.

I doubt I'm alone in this behavior, financially irresponsible as it may be.
 

Quasar

Senior Member
I don't think I've ever been specifically looking to buy something and then go "let's see if it's for sale on the VI Control classifieds!" Usually what I would buy is something used (actually, more like "by definition," not "usually"), or something I've filed away as a "want" in the back of my mind but haven't wanted enough to actually seek out. Instead I'd see the new post, get reminded of the thing, go "oh yeah I want that, let's see if I have enough cash at the moment..." and then buy it if the price is right.

I doubt I'm alone in this behavior, financially irresponsible as it may be.
I supposed we're all biased based on our own particular browsing habits. I don't go looking to see if something specific is on the VI Classifieds either. I just occasionally go to there to see what's on sale, and determine if anything has been posted that I would want at a better price than I am likely to otherwise find.

But in my case the "latest posts" feature has nothing to do with it, as I haven't tended to use that feature anyway (although I have been using it some lately). To me, it just makes sense navigate to that forum when one is in the mood to window shop or possibly buy something. It's certainly quick & easy enough to do.
 
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