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Is it dumb to buy a used 2013 Mac Pro in 2019?

Matt Riley

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I have a 2013 3.5 Ghz iMac quad-core with 32Gig Ram and a 1TB Fusion drive. I run some Logic X templates with several hundred tracks with VIs hosted in VEP6 on my 6-core PC server machine. I have an Apollo Twin thunderbolt interface. Performance seems to suffer when I use 50 or more of my tracks. Raising the buffer in Logic and the number of buffers in VEP helps but I often still have bad performance with the disk and I get the overload message from Logic which stops the audio.

I’m thinking about selling my iMac and buying a used 2013 Mac Pro. I’ve noticed that the prices are coming down quite a bit on eBay. Is this a dumb idea? If not, how many cores would you recommend?
 
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jtnyc

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I've considered those but not anymore. They are 6 years old and it won't be long before you can't upgrade the OS. I would go for a 2019 iMac. The top tier is 8 core i9 3.6 GHz, up to 5.0 turbo boost. If you get it with the stock 8 gigs of ram it's like $2700. You'd have to add the price of 3rd party ram to that as well.

That's the computer I'm considering right now. It's new, it's way powerful and while not cheap, it's not out of control expensive either.
 

Jeremy Gillam

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I'd go for a new Mac Mini with the 8700k processor or an iMac. I use the 9900k cpu that's in the top tier iMac on my Windows build with Cubase and it's pretty amazingly hard to choke it. The iMac might throttle it a bit due to heat but it should still be good.
 

Dewdman42

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I’m thinking about selling my iMac and buying a used 2013 Mac Pro. I’ve noticed that the prices are coming down quite a bit on eBay. Is this a dumb idea? If not, how many cores would you recommend?
Depends on the price its still a great computer. But Apple will probably pull the plug on compatibility, which means as long as you can live with about 3-5 more years out of it for the price you're paying, then why not?

I have a 2012 MacPro, still going strong, those are good value too.
 
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Matt Riley

Matt Riley

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Depends on the price its still a great computer. But Apple will probably pull the plug on compatibility, which means as long as you can live with about 3-5 more years out of it for the price you're paying, then why not?

I have a 2012 MacPro, still going strong, those are good value too.
If they pull the plug on compatibility, wouldn’t that affect the macs that they are currently selling?
 

Dewdman42

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somewhat. They already announced that the 5,1 MacPros would not be supported in Catalina but the truth is that a lot of people don't care yet and they are about the same price now as they were a couple years ago. These 2012 machines are still highly usable and still demand a price. The price is not going to plummet any time soon. Eventually it will. With the new MacPros being so expensive a lot of people are still finding value with these, which keeps the price up. When nobody wants them anymore the price will come down and you probably won't yours anymore either by then.
 

JohnG

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I'd go for a new Mac Mini with the 8700k processor or an iMac. I use the 9900k cpu that's in the top tier iMac on my Windows build with Cubase and it's pretty amazingly hard to choke it. The iMac might throttle it a bit due to heat but it should still be good.
A number of studios seem to be going this way -- Mac Mini.
 

Prockamanisc

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It's not dumb as long as there's no way that you can afford the new Mac Pros coming out very soon. Even if you can get the entry model of the new Mac Pro, it's still worth it because you can upgrade it over the years. Otherwise, you're going to be buying an MP 2013, and then an MP 2019. I would consolidate your purchases and your money into getting one machine that's going to last you 7-10 years...especially since you can upgrade it.
 
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Matt Riley

Matt Riley

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If I got the new Mac mini, wouldn’t I take a hit from the lower clock speed? My current iMac is 3.5 Ghz and the Mac mini is 3.2 Ghz.
 
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