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DANIELE

I love to make music but I also love to make music
I think the hanging notes are due to humanization delaying note on events to after when note off events happen, so if you play a note thats too short sometimes it'll get stuck. Apparently note off events aren't moved so that you don't accidently trigger legato when you don't want it.

Anyway, this update sounds incredible! Really looking forward to the strings.

Yeah I think the same thing! It is not a bug but more a "feature" that cause this, I have to try to write down the notes because I only tried to play them directly from my S88 MK1 and maybe it is the keyboard.
 

Batrawi

Senior Member
I remade my model of the star wars opening with infinite woodwinds 2 and infinite brass 1.5. All woodwinds and brass come exclusively from this series. Do not hesitate to take a critical look because I want to use it for educational / promotional purposes
excellent job! the only thing I didn't like is how the brass plays in the 0:48 part, I guess it's a performance issue not the library's fault. There's also a weird sound coming in @ 0:53. not sure if that's a trumpet or what but it sounds obviously bad to me. As for the WW I have no particular remarks, but that because they were well buried in this inherently loud/brassy piece I guess
 

shawnsingh

Senior Member
It does sound great! Yeah, I was going to mention the same feedback around 0:50.

Also, I wonder if the balance between high/mid/low brass can be tweaked. The trumpets felt too quiet compared to the horns and upper-low brass (I guess trombones? I actually don't know what the instrumentation should be here). The low brass felt slightly weak too, like when the melody repeats the second time on the horns, and the low brass has syncopated bouncy rhythms with the timpani - it feels like they aren't as prominent as I'd expect.
 

pierrevigneron

Active Member
excellent job! the only thing I didn't like is how the brass plays in the 0:48 part, I guess it's a performance issue not the library's fault. There's also a weird sound coming in @ 0:53. not sure if that's a trumpet or what but it sounds obviously bad to me. As for the WW I have no particular remarks, but that because they were well buried in this inherently loud/brassy piece I guess

It's curious, I also find this passage a little curious. On my score they are triplets but when you listen to the original recording it's almost sixteenth notes. Finally it is perhaps not this defect that you noted?
 

I like music

Senior Member
The trumpets in IB always sounded to me like the older recordings you got. Listening to a few JW and Jerry Goldsmith scores, you had a slightly thinner, crisper trumpet. Guessing it was to do with the recording style etc but I like them nontheless. I think the vibrato in 1.5 is slightly more pronounced e.g. can get more of a wobble?
 

K. Johnston

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It has to be a Reaper thing then!! I'll try with the standalone and see, I already tried with every plugin disabled on the track. I'll find out the cause and let you know. Thank you.

I am a Reaper user myself and I also have hanging notes when I updated IW. After tinkering around some, I think I found out why. It I had some note repetitions that had overlapping note events or the note off event is too close to the next note start of the same pitch, they hang. Perhaps the humanizing is causing them to hang like that as mentioned earlier. The solution was simply to disconnect the notes some and no more note hang. However, the notes do still hang if you stop playback right after the note on events for any IW tracks. This is more of a minor annoyance for me as it renders out well.

Aaron... These runs are the best I’ve heard on a VI. Simply breathtaking. Thank you sir!
 
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DANIELE

I love to make music but I also love to make music
I am a Reaper user myself and I also have hanging notes when I updated IW. After tinkering around some, I think I found out why. It I had some note repetitions that had overlapping note events or the note off event is too close to the next note start of the same pitch. Perhaps the humanizing is causing them to hang like that. The solution was simply to disconnect the notes some and no more note hang. However, the notes do still hang if you stop playback Right after the note on events for any IW tracks. This is more of a minor annoyance for me.

Aaron... These runs are the best I’ve heard on a VI. Simply breathtaking. Thank you sir!

Thank you, makes sense, so is it a Reaper fault or IW fault? Aaron has Reaper too.
 

Woodie1972

Active Member
Just played a bit with the IW 2.0 and I like it a lot! Overall positive changes, altough I have to agree on the sound of the Oboe, which sounds a bit thin to my ears too, especially in the lower register.

But what surpises me most is the sound of the Saxophones: really a thin sound, almost synthetic and no option anymore to change the character of the sound like it was possible in IW 1.1.... This is a strange decision IMO. Do I miss something?
 

decredis

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Just played a bit with the IW 2.0 and I like it a lot! Overall positive changes, altough I have to agree on the sound of the Oboe, which sounds a bit thin to my ears too, especially in the lower register.

But what surpises me most is the sound of the Saxophones: really a thin sound, almost synthetic and no option anymore to change the character of the sound like it was possible in IW 1.1.... This is a strange decision IMO. Do I miss something?
Oooh yes actually, I agree, having just tried the saxes A/Bing between 1.1 and 2.0, 2.0 seem thinner, less organic, out of the box at least; a change in the opposite direction from most of the library.

EDIT: And looking at a frequency spectrum of the two side by side, it does look as though a lot of lower frequency content has been substantially attenuated in 2.0.
 
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Woodie1972

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I did the same as you did and there is a significant difference in tone, plus that you can't change the initial character of the instrument anymore.
Thinking about the massive amount of time Aaron Ventue must have put into developing version 2.0, one wouldn't expect such a stepback in sound for the saxes, at least to my taste it is a stepback. On the other hand, he must have heard this difference too after all the testing he has done and published it as it is, so probably this is how he wants it to be.
 

decredis

Active Member
I did the same as you did and there is a significant difference in tone, plus that you can't change the initial character of the instrument anymore.
Thinking about the massive amount of time Aaron Ventue must have put into developing version 2.0, one wouldn't expect such a stepback in sound for the saxes, at least to my taste it is a stepback. On the other hand, he must have heard this difference too after all the testing he has done and published it as it is, so probably it is how he wants it to be.
Yeah, to be honest I don't trust my level of familiarity with any of these instruments to be a good judge of realism, but purely subjectively I think I prefer the 1.1 sax sound too.
 
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Batrawi

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On the other hand, he must have heard this difference too after all the testing he has done and published it as it is, so probably this is how he wants it to be.
or it could be ear fatigue. It's an insane amount of efforts and instruments that have been re-done. even the best ears can get lost in all this chaos.
 

DANIELE

I love to make music but I also love to make music
Now to wait for the Infinite Strings so I can have the string runs of my dreams!

Impatience aside, my gratitude to Aaron for the incredible quality of the VIs and the work he puts into them.

The strings will be monumental in terms of effort, I can only imagine how much work he has to do for strings.
 
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