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cruxmusic

New Member
Just grabbed it. You can use Jam Points WITH the upgrade price. Got mine for 140.99$ I cannot get the Hi-Hat rim to work (closed or open)! Tried every custom CC# value to no avail. I am using a Roland TD-11. Any suggestions?

Tried using values 26 and 21 but that is not a direct control of the "note" just the aperture control.
 
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Ryan_IK

Ryan IK
Just grabbed it. You can use Jam Points WITH the upgrade price. Got mine for 140.99$ I cannot get the Hi-Hat rim to work (closed or open)! Tried every custom CC# value to no avail. I am using a Roland TD-11. Any suggestions?

Tried using values 26 and 21 but that is not a direct control of the "note" just the aperture control.
Check your Settings -> Control section for the MIDI CC control of your Hi-hat aperture. There is also a short description on how this works in this section. The user manual goes over each note assignment in MODO DRUM. See the screen shot here:

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cruxmusic

New Member
Check your Settings -> Control section for the MIDI CC control of your Hi-hat aperture. There is also a short description on how this works in this section. The user manual goes over each note assignment in MODO DRUM. See the screen shot here:

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That worked. Thank you. I should be able to change mappings in Superior and NI Abbey Road drums to match.
 

Virtuoso

Active Member
I just got this tonight - I'm not hugely impressed so far. Finding it tough to get a good snare sound and the dynamic range seems off - even the lowest velocities seem too strong on the snares. In the attached example comparing it to EZ Drummer, ghost notes and rolls just don't sound right on MODO.

I found quite a few bugs in the first hour or so - it started making random almost chordal sounds by itself while playback was stopped (nothing else loaded) and I noticed odd sounds creeping into the overheads from the hi-hats during playback. The mixer OH/Room routing buttons don't seem to work properly (e.g. turn off the power button on the snare OH send during playback and then solo the OH channel - the snare is still there, I have to power it back on and then off again to make it work).

It's nice to see a scalable UI, but you can't stretch the window right to show all mixer channels. Everything scales in proportion, so no matter how large you make it, you can still only see 8 channels at a time.

It would be very useful to have note remapping, ideally with presets for common MIDI libraries like Toontrack.

I would also like more control over the cross stick sound - at the moment it's defined by whichever snare model you pick, but if you don't like it you have no ability to tweak it.

The Groove browser is ok, but there's no tempo column to sort the results. The individual grooves are named so you can search for a specific tempo by typing '112' in the search bar, but it would be useful to be able to search by tempo range - maybe by typing 116-130.

There are no brushes for jazz unfortunately. MODO Bass also has no upright or fretless. so maybe Jazz isn't on IK's roadmap?
 

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chocobitz825

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I just got this tonight - I'm not hugely impressed so far. Finding it tough to get a good snare sound and the dynamic range seems off - even the lowest velocities seem too strong on the snares. In the attached example comparing it to EZ Drummer, ghost notes and rolls just don't sound right on MODO.

I found quite a few bugs in the first hour or so - it started making random almost chordal sounds by itself while playback was stopped (nothing else loaded) and I noticed odd sounds creeping into the overheads from the hi-hats during playback. The mixer OH/Room routing buttons don't seem to work properly (e.g. turn off the power button on the snare OH send during playback and then solo the OH channel - the snare is still there, I have to power it back on and then off again to make it work).

It's nice to see a scalable UI, but you can't stretch the window right to show all mixer channels. Everything scales in proportion, so no matter how large you make it, you can still only see 8 channels at a time.

It would be very useful to have note remapping, ideally with presets for common MIDI libraries like Toontrack.

I would also like more control over the cross stick sound - at the moment it's defined by whichever snare model you pick, but if you don't like it you have no ability to tweak it.

The Groove browser is ok, but there's no tempo column to sort the results. The individual grooves are named so you can search for a specific tempo by typing '112' in the search bar, but it would be useful to be able to search by tempo range - maybe by typing 116-130.

There are no brushes for jazz unfortunately. MODO Bass also has no upright or fretless. so maybe Jazz isn't on IK's roadmap?
what DAW are you using? that's strange. I've experienced none of those problems, and I've put them on my 5th track already. I suppose everyone has their tastes, but it's disappointing to hear you haven't been able to build the kind of snare you want. That's been my favorite part so far. I've been able to shape and tune them perfectly and if anything, I've had issues where the snare was too soft and I had to bring up the velocities because I use some grooves from different libraries.

As for Superior Drummer, the only fix for me was just to go and make a Drum Map of Modo Drums in Superior Drummer and now I just load that up when necessary. I also now just open up SD and do midi out to MODO drums for the grooves.

Oh well, these libraries never work for 100% of the users. Sad to hear its not meeting your expectations.
 

Virtuoso

Active Member
what DAW are you using?
I'm using Logic.

I shouldn't have bought it really - I don't need it and the audio demos didn't impress me at all. In a moment of weakness, I was lead astray by the very enthusiastic video review posted earlier! :rolleyes:

I'm sure it will improve, but right now I'll probably set it aside and carry on with SD3 and EZ2. I think I can get much better results much faster with either of those.
 

Ryan_IK

Ryan IK
I just got this tonight - I'm not hugely impressed so far. Finding it tough to get a good snare sound and the dynamic range seems off - even the lowest velocities seem too strong on the snares. In the attached example comparing it to EZ Drummer, ghost notes and rolls just don't sound right on MODO.

I found quite a few bugs in the first hour or so - it started making random almost chordal sounds by itself while playback was stopped (nothing else loaded) and I noticed odd sounds creeping into the overheads from the hi-hats during playback. The mixer OH/Room routing buttons don't seem to work properly (e.g. turn off the power button on the snare OH send during playback and then solo the OH channel - the snare is still there, I have to power it back on and then off again to make it work).

It's nice to see a scalable UI, but you can't stretch the window right to show all mixer channels. Everything scales in proportion, so no matter how large you make it, you can still only see 8 channels at a time.

It would be very useful to have note remapping, ideally with presets for common MIDI libraries like Toontrack.

I would also like more control over the cross stick sound - at the moment it's defined by whichever snare model you pick, but if you don't like it you have no ability to tweak it.

The Groove browser is ok, but there's no tempo column to sort the results. The individual grooves are named so you can search for a specific tempo by typing '112' in the search bar, but it would be useful to be able to search by tempo range - maybe by typing 116-130.

There are no brushes for jazz unfortunately. MODO Bass also has no upright or fretless. so maybe Jazz isn't on IK's roadmap?
Sorry to hear of any troubles getting started.

Please post your suggestions to the Official Wish list for MODO DRUM.

For your issues, these have not been reported by other users. Have you contacted our support team? If not, please reach out by opening a ticket here. Once open, you can PM me your Ticket# so I can flag your case.

For your search issues, try searching "_116" or just add the "_" before your desired tempo. This should get you working, the team is looking into search optimizations in the meantime.

We definitely appreciate Jazz sounds, and we have seen a bunch of interests for brushes. This interest has been passed to the team. Stay tuned to the newsletter to be the first to hear of future developments.


I'm using Logic.

I shouldn't have bought it really - I don't need it and the audio demos didn't impress me at all. In a moment of weakness, I was lead astray by the very enthusiastic video review posted earlier! :rolleyes:

I'm sure it will improve, but right now I'll probably set it aside and carry on with SD3 and EZ2. I think I can get much better results much faster with either of those.

If you are having troubles getting any particular sounds, the support team may be able to help. We've been seeing a lot of users mention how easy their transition from Superior Drummer 3 and BFD was, so maybe with some suggestions we can help make your workflow a bit more efficient in this aspect.
 

pipedr

Member
I just got this tonight - I'm not hugely impressed so far. Finding it tough to get a good snare sound and the dynamic range seems off - even the lowest velocities seem too strong on the snares. In the attached example comparing it to EZ Drummer, ghost notes and rolls just don't sound right on MODO.

I found quite a few bugs in the first hour or so - it started making random almost chordal sounds by itself while playback was stopped (nothing else loaded) and I noticed odd sounds creeping into the overheads from the hi-hats during playback. The mixer OH/Room routing buttons don't seem to work properly (e.g. turn off the power button on the snare OH send during playback and then solo the OH channel - the snare is still there, I have to power it back on and then off again to make it work).

It's nice to see a scalable UI, but you can't stretch the window right to show all mixer channels. Everything scales in proportion, so no matter how large you make it, you can still only see 8 channels at a time.

It would be very useful to have note remapping, ideally with presets for common MIDI libraries like Toontrack.

I would also like more control over the cross stick sound - at the moment it's defined by whichever snare model you pick, but if you don't like it you have no ability to tweak it.

The Groove browser is ok, but there's no tempo column to sort the results. The individual grooves are named so you can search for a specific tempo by typing '112' in the search bar, but it would be useful to be able to search by tempo range - maybe by typing 116-130.

There are no brushes for jazz unfortunately. MODO Bass also has no upright or fretless. so maybe Jazz isn't on IK's roadmap?
Thanks for posting. I like these side by side comparisons. Was EZDrummer the first example with the deeper snare? Was the loop taken from EZDrummer or Modo?
 

Diablo3

Active Member
I'm using Logic.

I shouldn't have bought it really - I don't need it and the audio demos didn't impress me at all. In a moment of weakness, I was lead astray by the very enthusiastic video review posted earlier! :rolleyes:

I'm sure it will improve, but right now I'll probably set it aside and carry on with SD3 and EZ2. I think I can get much better results much faster with either of those.
Judging by the new videos surfacing Youtube, kick drum alone (specially using both) sounds stellar to me.

Hi hats and playability of those (specially since you can control the openness of the hats) is marvelous.
Plus having the ability to add left and right hand to it,stick tip or edge is such a great feature too.

Timbre wise I loved it all (judging by the demos) except the snare. Judging by demos (videos),
it has machine gun effect and not a good timbre (even using L&R hands). That's a bummer.

Cymbals sounds so silky.

Not that I am defending the product, I am speaking out right now just judging by the recent surfacing
Youtube videos.

I wish IK Multimedia released Modo Drum as parts, so I could buy everything but the snare, :P

Although what be better is if they released a snare pack or something, making sure it sounded amazing.

EDIT: The snare here sounds great, but I doubt repeating 16th notes get rid of machine gun effect. At least it does have a very good timbre (min 2):

 
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chocobitz825

Senior Member
Judging by the new videos surfacing Youtube, kick drum alone (specially using both) sounds stellar to me.

Hi hats and playability of those (specially since you can control the openness of the hats) is marvelous.
Plus having the ability to add left and right hand to it,stick tip or edge is such a great feature too.

Timbre wise I loved it all (judging by the demos) except the snare. Judging by demos (videos),
it has machine gun effect and not a good timbre (even using L&R hands). That's a bummer.

Cymbals sounds so silky.

Not that I am defending the product, I am speaking out right now just judging by the recent surfacing
Youtube videos.

I wish IK Multimedia released Modo Drum as parts, so I could buy everything but the snare, :P

Although what be better is if they released a snare pack or something, making sure it sounded amazing.

EDIT: The snare here sounds great, but I doubt repeating 16th notes get rid of machine gun effect. At least it does have a very good timbre (min 2):

Other ears are far more particular than mine so I imagine my opinion can be taken with a grain of salt, but I’ve found the snares avoid the machine gun sound by positioning the right hand just off from center and then fine tuning or humanizing the velocity of the snare hits. No doubt there are a million other ways to address the problem but I’ve found out if the box I’ve enjoyed modo far more than superior drummer.
 

Diablo3

Active Member
Other ears are far more particular than mine so I imagine my opinion can be taken with a grain of salt, but I’ve found the snares avoid the machine gun sound by positioning the right hand just off from center and then fine tuning or humanizing the velocity of the snare hits. No doubt there are a million other ways to address the problem but I’ve found out if the box I’ve enjoyed modo far more than superior drummer.
Nice, I never got what people saw in SD3 :P (What I got is SSDrums 5 and all NI drum kits now).
 
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