True. But the Stradivarius is also a very old violin. Hollywood Opus is the Stradivarius of orchestral libraries.Ironic since Hollywood Opus is essentially a very old library
True. But the Stradivarius is also a very old violin. Hollywood Opus is the Stradivarius of orchestral libraries.Ironic since Hollywood Opus is essentially a very old library
Okay, my price w/discover would be £210 which is a lot more than $200 but that's SF pricing structure's fault. Not sure it's fair to quote a 24-hour sale price that has come once in SF's whole history - otherwise you could compare to the day that HWO was ~$100.If you get BBC Discover, which is free, you get an additional $50 discount from MSRP. So when it's 50% off during a sale, it comes out to a flat $200. That's where the number is coming from.
HOOPUS itself is new, but the samples themselves are very old, and I don't expect anything bigger than a 60% off sale of HOOPUS in the next year.
You're right. BBC Pro is a much closer match to HOOPUS. HOOPUS used to have a gold edition, but they stopped selling it to focus on Diamond.
Problem is, HO is on the sale (as most EW stuff) almost all the time, this is not a BF sale lasting a week. The sale price of OPUS is practically its normal price so far. (and yeah it is better - contains way more stuff, recording sounds great, usable for epic stuff as well for more intimate writing and programming holds up ( programming in BBSCO is not anything 2021 level anyway). Ideally, you can get both, but if I have to choose one Opus all the way.No, you're comparing a sale price to a normal price. The historical low for HOOPUS is $500 vs the historical low for BBC Core being $200 (with the Discover discount). The MSRP for HOOPUS is $995 vs MSRP for BBC Core being $449.
BBC Core is basically half the price of HOOPUS for all intents and purposes; whether HOOPUS is twice as good is up for debate (although I would suggest that the answer is "no" for beginners and intermediate level composers).
There are also new samples in HOPUS.If you get BBC Discover, which is free, you get an additional $50 discount from MSRP. So when it's 50% off during a sale, it comes out to a flat $200. That's where the number is coming from.
HOOPUS itself is new, but the samples themselves are very old, and I don't expect anything bigger than a 60% off sale of HOOPUS in the next year.
You're right. BBC Pro is a much closer match to HOOPUS. HOOPUS used to have a gold edition, but they stopped selling it to focus on Diamond.
This right here.Undoubtedly true. I think the positive takeaway is for people starting out, Core is quite ample to have a pretty decent full orchestra at their fingertips especially when it's on sale. To someone who wants to write a piece like that but isn't there yet, it's more than ample. Here's to getting to the point where we outgrow Core... still many of us in that situation.
I just looked and it's on sale for $269. Crazy. And I'll say this about the player... no other piece of software has that much potential for improvement.This right here.
Many people compare core to pro. Yes pro can sound better but that's not to discount that Core is amazing all on its own as well.
Between BBCSO Core and other libraries with different mic positions like HOOPUS, I have a hard time justifying getting BBCSO pro, but I will.
I did too but the brass is very usable in context. You are correct, it isn't the screaming trailer brass but there are a lot of libraries that can do that.I have BBSCO Pro and with the exception of the solo trumpet, I find the brass virtually unusable. It's definitely not a library for big, epic arrangements. OPUS (and HS) brass is still amongst the top of the heap for this.
That is the best thing I've read in a long time...... And I'll say this about the player... no other piece of software has that much potential for improvement.
OH! It's not mine, it's one I found on YouTube! YIKES, I should have clarified that. I just really admired what the person did using one relatively inexpensive library.Hi Paulie, thank you for sharing your music, and may I say that it is a very effective piece.There was something very special about 1:23 onward - It was ethereal I especially loved the orchestration and the movement of the forte section right at the end. That was a masterstroke. I was quite excited about what you achieved with the library in your music here. Really great! Thanks again for sharing.
Really I was concentrating on the guy's composition, that he took Core a bit farther in that sense than many other pieces we've heard... ultimately the point was that the library doesn't matter, it's all about writing. Which also is subjective!So the answer is no?
It's not bad but in many parts, it sounds like it was done with 12+ years old libraries, it has that choppy sound. Again, Hollywood Oopus would be definitely a better choice for this with the same price point.
But I definitely don't wanna discourage you, some mixing and mastering would definitely help it.
Well, writing definitely is most important. But this composition is mostly showing the weaknesses of the library. And I really don't see it being so good so it would sell me the lib. This guy would actually sell it to me - love his classical music like demos - BBCSO is really home in this genre.Really I was concentrating on the guy's composition, that he took Core a bit farther in that sense than many other pieces we've heard... ultimately the point was that the library doesn't matter, it's all about writing. Which also is subjective!
Oh, Sorry, I didn't realize that. Thanks for letting me know. SteveOH! It's not mine, it's one I found on YouTube! YIKES, I should have clarified that. I just really admired what the person did using one relatively inexpensive library.
Ooof, I feel like a dork now. I'd better footnote the video.
Well, writing definitely is most important. But this composition is mostly showing the weaknesses of the library. And I really don't see it being so good so it would sell me the lib. This guy would actually sell it to me - love his classical music like demos - BBCSO is really home in this genre.
It's actually, you should compare the biggest options (PRO vs OOPUS, since there is no lighter version of HOOPUS than what it is).No, you're comparing a sale price to a normal price. The historical low for HOOPUS is $500 vs the historical low for BBC Core being $200 (with the Discover discount). The MSRP for HOOPUS is $995 vs MSRP for BBC Core being $449.
BBC Core is basically half the price of HOOPUS for all intents and purposes; whether HOOPUS is twice as good is up for debate (although I would suggest that the answer is "no" for beginners and intermediate level composers).
Hehe, yeah but one section costs more than the whole HOOPUSThe SSO series is still the best Spitfire orchestral series to date, and is much more comparable to HOOPUS than the BBC stuff in terms of both quality and usability.
Definitely listen to his other BBCSO demos. He really can write which of course helps but also he is making the BBCSO sound very "alive".WOW. I totally see what you're getting at now. Thank you for posting this because I didn't know what I didn't understand about your assessment; now I'm starting to get your take on the first piece. This one you posted was incredible, it sounded like musicians playing... most people would think that was a recording of an orchestra (which it is technically, lol). OK, good lesson for the day!