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If you were going to order a new desktop/tower today...

Discussion in 'PC/Mac Builders, Mods, Peripherals - New' started by Zoot_Rollo, Mar 12, 2018.

  1. Zoot_Rollo

    Zoot_Rollo Throbbing Member

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    what would you get?

    specs?

    pre-built?

    $2,500-ish budget
     
  2. Tfis

    Tfis Senior Member

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    i7 7700k, 64GB, 500GB + 2TB SSD, Asus MB, be Quiet DarkRock3,..
     
  3. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon KSP Wizard

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    Make that i7-8700K instead with Noctua's cooling.
     
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  4. chimuelo

    chimuelo Star Of Stage & Screen

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    i7 8700k the most powerful audio CPU you can get as its single core strength has no rival, and 6 Cores is capable of real time use on lower buffer settings.
    I’d still get Noctua or a Corsair Hydro water/radiator and take that sucker to 5GHz.

    I doubt anyone bounces tracks with the new HEDT CPUs.
     
  5. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon KSP Wizard

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    You can ALWAYS do things that make you bounce tracks, worry not. I'm pretty sure there still are people doing it even on 8700K :grin:
     
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    8700K is definitely how I would roll. As far as prebuilt vs DIY, DIY isn't that difficult from a HW assembly standpoint (assuming some technical proclivity). The real value of going with a prebuilt from an audio PC firm (StudioCat, DAWPlus, SCAN UK, etc) is in the configuration to maximize audio performance. One of the reasons I returned to Mac after a couple year Windows detour was because I hated managing Windows 10, not using it. Of course you also get a warranty with a prebuilt.
     
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  7. Craig Duke

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    I recently purchased a Coffee Lake 8700K system, pre-built and tuned by Purrfect Audio. All cores are running at 4.7 GHz. Fast, dependable, and silent. I'm very happy with my choice.
     
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    eirikbj New Member

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    Ok, so yall agree on 8700K. I am looking into the 7820X, that is over 200$ more expensive. Is it not better? (Of course I am planning on building myself).

    (And I am using it as a VEP slave entirely)
     
  9. Jazzy_Joe

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    Another very happy 8700K user here, got mine from Scan in the UK. Running at 4.7 Giga-whops, it has comfortably taken everything I thrown at it so far!
     
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    Zoot_Rollo

    Zoot_Rollo Throbbing Member

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    thanks for all the posts!

    i am now looking at a September, 2018 timeframe (bonus month).

    i need something that will handle 3D Rendering and Animation too, so Cores and GPUs will play heavily.

    should be an interesting 6 months.
     
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  11. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon KSP Wizard

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    Still 8700K but then also add a beefy GPU to it.
     
  12. gregh

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    I would look at Toms Hardware site and Ars Techinica and see what the primo system was for last year (or year before this years hot system). I would go on the reddit subforum for video machines and ask there, and then I would ask a good retailer what they would do to build you a machine - given the specs of what you found. I would go for last years hot processor and graphics cards - which will be amazing - and spend money on SSDs and internal backup drives. And dont forget the monitor - get something that can handle the resolution (pixels and colour space) that you need. The last of your problems will be the CPU and graphics if you go down that route.
     
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    Zoot_Rollo Throbbing Member

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    Yup

    I will be working with Maya 2018 and Red Shift.

    Stuff never sits still.
     
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    Zoot_Rollo

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    20180120_120117.jpg

    Current setup.

    A couple of Asus 27" 1440s working well.
     
  15. tack

    tack Damned Dirty Ape

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    It's got two more cores, and the X299 platform offers more features than X370 (including going beyond 64GB RAM).

    There's a very lengthy thread over on The Sound Board (requires registration, sorry) where @Guy Rowland agonizes over the 8700K vs the 7820X, and we spent quite a lot of time benchmarking, with the help of Scan. Ultimately Guy decided to go with the 7820X as although the 8700K's realtime performance was clearly better, he didn't feel it was better enough to matter to him compared to the 7820X. And in exchange, he gets 2 extra cores and a richer platform.

    I await with interest to see how his new build works out.

    FWIW, I went with the 8700K because I wasn't convinced about the thermals of the 7820X with air cooling when I purchased.
     
  16. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon KSP Wizard

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    Which is a sane choice you did. 8700K is still a 95W TDP CPU, whereas 7820X pushes 140W... Eek.
     
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    Not that you'd ever know it, unless perhaps pushing AVX-optimized workloads heavily. My 7820X is cool, quiet, and efficient, and I'd buy it again over the 8700K for the extra PCIe lanes.
     
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    If you are planning a high-end graphics card, the 8700K may not be the best choice. It, like the 6700 and 7700 before it, only has 16 PCIe lanes which will all be taken up by a single video card. That leaves nothing for NVMe drives, among other things. The 8700 is a great choice for music because most folks can use the integrated graphics.

    Now a 7820 or 7900 starts making more sense. The 7900 is where you get a full 44 lanes.
     
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    tack Damned Dirty Ape

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    It's not quite as bad as that. Bear in mind the PCH provides 24 PCIe lanes, so if you're using NVMe M.2 slots on your motherboard, you'll usually be using lanes provided by the chipset. The bottleneck then would be the DMI 3.0 interface to the CPU which is PCIe x4 (and which does not cannibalize the 16 for the video card).

    The question is how many peripherals are you running full tilt simultaneously such that the bottlenecks become material.
     
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