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Pier

Senior Member
I wonder how many people here use adblockers which are depriving publishers/content creators/authors etc of revenue. You are effectively taking something (the content) while circumventing the method of payment (the ads). Is this not theft also?
I agree, which is why I disable my ad blocker on sites I use frequently such VIC, Reddit, etc.

For Youtube I pay a subscription that remove ads and also gives money to creators.

There is this project called Coil that automatically gives micropayments to sites you visit. I paid the subscription for a while but so few sites have implemented the micropayments API that it was useless.

In general I do keep my ad blocker on because there's too much abuse from ad networks, behavior tracking, privacy, etc.
 

korruptkey

Active Member
That won't work for me, though, because I turn my PCs off when they're not in use.
Look into VirtualHere... it shares over usb over the lan and wan. I recently set this up and it's amazing. I have a powered usb hub connected to my router and all my dongles connected to it. Then I run virtualhere on my router (they support a ton of devices, but worst case is just get a low powered device like Raspberry Pi and make that a dedicated machine). Then whichever machine in my house, I can just remotely connect to it. This is also great as it keeps your dongles stationary... the constant plugging and unplugging is just an increasing risk to damage.
 

Lindon

VST/AU Developer
That's one company and one example and hardly equates to all pirates. It's far from wrong, but the answer obviously varies. It's not always true either.



Again, you're trying to take one example and act like that means it's true in all cases, but it isn't. Undoubtedly some people pirate for exactly that reason; in fact, I think at least one or two on this thread have already said as much (not that they do, but had before...).
Hmm, I thought we'd dealt with this..... Yes you are right I am giving an example, in both cases, it would seem however for you to accept the position they demonstrate as valid would require me to give you more than one example - exactly how many examples are needed 2? 10? 200? 2,000? Are the zero example (opinion based) posts less or more valid than posts offering (at least) one example?

In the end all I can see you saying across a range of posts here is: "in your opinion" or "in that specific case" - which we can all take for granted is always going to be the case unless the poster can offer an axiom of some sort - so you are not actually moving the discussion forwards in any contributory way.
 
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bill5

Senior Member
Hmm, I thought we'd dealt with this..... Yes you are right I am giving an example, in both cases, it would seem however for you to accept the position they demonstrate as valid would require me to give you more than one example - exactly how many examples are needed 2? 10? 200? 2,000?
I didn't say or imply it was invalid, nor did I have any specific number in mind, but clearly the more that are known, the more validity that position has. I simply pointed out that one example doesn't equate to being true across the board, as you implied.

In the end all I can see you saying across a range of posts here is: "in your opinion" or "in that specific case"
Then you weren't reading very carefully.

so you are not actually moving the discussion forwards in any contributory way.
I disagree and it appears at least a few others do as well, but whatever. I'm not even sure what you count as "moving the discussion forward," as if it needs to reach some goal or conclusion. It's a message board, which are largely about people stating their opinions and viewpoints on various topics.

But since I sense ad hominems and general snarkiness creeping in, as well as starting to go in circles, I'm done with this. Have fun!
 
The only thing you can do is to continue doing the right thing. Don't worry about what other people do, or even if they get away with it; it's totally irrelevant to your own moral integrity.

I've invested far more $$ than that, and I sleep like a baby regardless of the knowledge that other people are pirating these libraries.
 

Mike Greene

Senior Member
Moderator
I see there's a censorship on the website. Amazing.
Yes, my message have been removed. For no reason. THIS, is very disappointing.
The discussion here is interesting, but also long, so in the interest of keeping the thread from becoming longer than it needs to be with unnecessary clutter, we sometimes remove posts that aren't actually adding to the topic at hand. (In this case, riffing back and forth about an "I want to speak to the piracy manager" joke. I'll grant that the joke is amusing, but sometimes jokes are called for, other times they are not.)

I understand some people might classify that as "censorship," but in discussions like this, especially in a thread that's already over 10 pages long, I believe most people would prefer the conversation stay on point, so they don't have to read 20 pages of posts to get 10 pages of actual content.
 

fakemaxwell

Active Member
1. "People who use pirated software were never going to buy the product anyway.."

This is wrong, ask Urs Heckman. Over on the DSP forum at KVRAudio Urs kindly offers up his experience of writing software that attempts to defeat pirates.

The u-he method is (imo) the gold standard here. It works, it's unobtrusive to paying customers, and it ends up driving sales. If all copy protection was implemented as thoughtfully as u-he's this conversation would be less than a page long.
 
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