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HZ's Library

Discussion in 'SAMPLE Talk' started by jononotbono, Jan 11, 2018.

  1. dpasdernick

    dpasdernick Senior Member

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    Here's what would happen...

    1) Hans announces library. Hysterical Fanboys respond with "credit card in hand drooling"
    2) 100 exabytes of debate on how it will revolutionize the world of composing
    2) Samples released - servers crash
    3) VI lights up - "OMG BEST EVER"
    4) One week goes by
    5) New posts "So what's out there that's better than Hans Zimmer's library?"

    Trust me...
     
  2. quantum7

    quantum7 1 more year until I turn 50...then it's all over.


    LOL I think you are probably correct. :grin:
     
  3. NoamL

    NoamL Senior Member

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    Here is a visual explanation of inbetweening

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    jononotbono

    jononotbono Luke Johnson

    Ok cool man! Thanks! Very interesting!

    I'm guessing HZ just records people playing. Music is music!

    "Just" haha
     
  5. AlexRuger

    AlexRuger Senior Member

    Last year I took part in a sampling session that was roughly 70-80 dynamic layers per instrument. It's totally a thing, but also totally a giant pain in the ass!
     
  6. ghandizilla

    ghandizilla Please feed me

    Would be curious to know who organizes such sampling sessions! (Would not be surprised if it were someone like Junkie XL.)
     
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  7. Jesse Heslinga

    Jesse Heslinga Senior Member

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    jononotbono

    jononotbono Luke Johnson

    Of course it’s a thing. Thanks. Why somebody can’t understand recording a professional musician at a specific dynamic isn’t possible speaks volumes.
     
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  9. ghandizilla

    ghandizilla Please feed me

    I wonder how the instructions are given to the musicians in such detailed sampling sessions. I mean, do they just tell them : "play two ranks above mf but eight below f?" How do they synchronize their understanding of the dynamics the sampling team expect them to play?
     
  10. rottoy

    rottoy Gentleman Scholar

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    6) Hans Zimmer's library - At least it's better than Synchron Strings.
     
  11. AdamKmusic

    AdamKmusic Senior Member

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    Play louder, play louder PLAY LOUDER!!
     
  12. soundtraktechnoid

    soundtraktechnoid Senior Member

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    I just don't see how you can get wind instrument players to play consistantly for samples that are 70-80 dynamic layers...
     
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  13. robharvey

    robharvey Senior Member

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    Patience and lots of take I bet. A good editor to boot. I recon you could hear it if you spent long enough doing it.
     
  14. procreative

    procreative Senior Member

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    I really pity the players in those kind of sessions, how they keep themselves motivated...
     
  15. StillLife

    StillLife Senior Member

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    Maybe by thinking about the cool sample libraries they can buy with the money they earn from such a session.
     
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  16. mac

    mac Guest

    I just tried it on my guitar whilst drinking sambuca and I got 129 levels, so its 100% do-able. Anyone who doesn't is just lazy.
     
  17. AlexRuger

    AlexRuger Senior Member

    I mean...it's not perfect. A whole lot of this happens in post, at least in my (admittedly limited) sampling experience.
     
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  18. NoamL

    NoamL Senior Member

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    Yeah that's another interesting idea. Suppose you just ask someone to play a bunch of spiccatos "around mp to mf." They can record dozens per note, without worrying about the exact dynamic. Then, someone working in post can cut all the samples, and then rank them according to dynamic and group them into round-robin sets on dynamic layers 33, 34, 35... This way the player doesn't have to be constantly pinpointing a particular dynamic layer "between 37 and 39." As long as they record enough material, all the ranking can be done in post.
     
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  19. calebfaith

    calebfaith Senior Member

    That's what I was thinking would happen too. I think it would be much easier than trying to record at such precise levels.
     
  20. BenG

    BenG Senior Member

    I could be mistaken, but didn't Hans' have his older library available via Spitfire many years ago? I think there were even a few demos such as Colin O'Malley's 'Raise the Atocha'.

    If I recall, it was astronomically expensive like £50,000 or something...
     

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