Hyperion Strings Micro - Part 2

robgb

I was young once
The more I play with this library, the more I discover. I didn't realize the Ensemble patch allows you to turn off sections so that, for example, you can only play cellos if you prefer. And you can adjust the range of the instrument as well.

What makes this great is that you can layer it with the actual cello section patch and there's no phasing problems when they're played together. So you go from 5 cellos to 10, giving it a much bigger sound.

The sustain dynamic+reactive patches can easily be played marcato, even though that's not one of the separate articulations included.

I'd probably know all these things if I bothered to read the manual, but... The more I use it, the more I'm blown away by this library. For $39!!
 
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Mornats

Senior Member
Dammit, I try to tell myself that I don't need more strings as I have two Albions then you go and spoil if for me :) All of the comments about this library would make you think it retails above £200 rather than £29! This is my first "proper sections" string library so looking forward to learning more about composing with it.
 

Motr3b

Member
The more I play with this library, the more I discover. I didn't realize the Ensemble patch allows you to turn off sections so that, for example, you can only play cellos if you prefer. And you can adjust the range of the instrument as well.

What makes this great is that you can layer it with the actual cello section patch and there's no phasing problems when they're played together. So you go from 5 cellos to 10, giving it a much bigger sound.

The sustain dynamic+reactive patches can easily be played marcato, even though that's not one of the separate articulations included.

I'd probably know all these things if I bothered to read the manual, but... The more I use it, the more I'm blown away by this library. For $39!!
Hi
im planing to get either lass legato sordino strings or hyperion strings.
Can you tell me how the legato sounds in this library and which one i should get in your opinion??
 
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robgb

robgb

I was young once
Hi
im planing to get either lass legato sordino strings or hyperion strings.
Can you tell me how the legato sounds in this library and which one i should get in your opinion??
There's a world of difference between LASS and Hyperion, I hate to say. I'm pretty sure the legato in LASS is true legato, while the legato in Hyperion is scripted. It's a serviceable legato, that allows you to play with the transition speed. But the LASS are sordinos and have a completely different sound, not to mention they're considerably more expensive.
 

sostenuto

Big NKS Fan !
There's a world of difference between LASS and Hyperion, I hate to say. I'm pretty sure the legato in LASS is true legato, while the legato in Hyperion is scripted. It's a serviceable legato, that allows you to play with the transition speed. But the LASS are sordinos and have a completely different sound, not to mention they're considerably more expensive.
So many darn cool string /and other Libs out there now and likely more to come ….. Even tho Hyperion is very low cost now, I keep fighting to avoid taking any Audiobro $$$ away … until making a fairly serious decision on LASS Full 2.5.
Can you offer you advice on prioritizing the following Audiobro products ? LS 2.5 ($199.) __ First Chair 2 ($149,) __
Lite 2 ($225.) ???
( I am aware of the additional $50. that comes into play with Lite2 /FC2 Bundle.)
Audiobro's $-4-$ Upgrade path makes this a reasonable option for me.
 
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robgb

robgb

I was young once
So many darn cool string /and other Libs out there now and likely more to come ….. Even tho Hyperion is very low cost now, I keep fighting to avoid taking any Audiobro $$$ away … until making a fairly serious decision on LASS Full 2.5.
Can you offer you advice on prioritizing the following Audiobro products ? LS 2.5 ($199.) __ First Chair 2 ($149,) __
Lite 2 ($225.) ???
( I am aware of the additional $50. that comes into play with Lite2 /FC2 Bundle.)
Audiobro's $-4-$ Upgrade path makes this a reasonable option for me.
If I had money to blow, I'd probably buy the full LASS, considering it's got a serious discount right now. But if you don't want to spend that much, I'd definitely get Lite, which has all the sections, including sordino sustains, and legatos. Plus there's an upgrade path to full.
 

sostenuto

Big NKS Fan !
If I had money to blow, I'd probably buy the full LASS, considering it's got a serious discount right now. But if you don't want to spend that much, I'd definitely get Lite, which has all the sections, including sordino sustains, and legatos. Plus there's an upgrade path to full.
BTW … not ruling out Hyperion Strings Micro; mainly trying to sort addition of multiple 'solid' bits and pieces versus one major Leap :shocked:

Soundiron's strategy here is cool, and they have set a fairly high bar with Micro. How the final Hyperion Strings release will measure up … both in quality and cost … is some time ahead.
THX!
 

pderbidge

Senior Member
So many darn cool string /and other Libs out there now and likely more to come ….. Even tho Hyperion is very low cost now, I keep fighting to avoid taking any Audiobro $$$ away … until making a fairly serious decision on LASS Full 2.5.
Can you offer you advice on prioritizing the following Audiobro products ? LS 2.5 ($199.) __ First Chair 2 ($149,) __
Lite 2 ($225.) ???
( I am aware of the additional $50. that comes into play with Lite2 /FC2 Bundle.)
Audiobro's $-4-$ Upgrade path makes this a reasonable option for me.
I own Lass Full but not LS. My take on it- Lass is awesome, especially the legatos but also quite a bit more money. Here's my only soapbox with LASS. First, I purchased Lite and realized right away that I wanted Divisi and the extra Colors that LASS full has (lite only offers the Batman colors preset). Some people prefer to bypass the colors presets and EQ LASS on its own but the colors are more than just EQ and I like to choose a color and then EQ to taste from there. I actually like all the various colors options (there are a lot). It's like having a number of different sounding string libraries in one. Lass full does come with the "simulated" sordinos that work pretty well but True sordino is definitely preferred which is where LS comes in.
So here's my only gripe:
First I paid the $50 upgrade fee only a month after owning Lite and although I'm sure I could have emailed Andrew he probably would have waved the fee but I hate to grovel (which I know it's not but...) so I let it be. Then a few months later they start offering LASS full plus LSS for the same price that I paid for just the Full version (plus I paid the upgrade fee!). So I keep thinking one day LS will be offered to existing owners for much cheaper than the standard $200 crossgrade fee, but nope. Even when there is a LASS sale for everyone else, the current owners still have the same $200 crossgrade fee for LS. Years later, still the same. So I finally gave up and took advantage of the 8DIO sale for their Sordino library for some crazy price of $50. Now I don't feel the need to own LASS LS since I think 8DIO's Agitato sordinos library sounds great. I also picked up Adagietto for $49 which has nice sordino sustains. Lass is still my main go to for everything else.
At the time LASS was one of the Few libraries that was dyer than the others on the market, other than VSL and Hollywood Strings (I do own HS as well). But now we also have Chris Heins String Ensembles and 8Dio Century Strings which also can get fairly dry plus with some pretty advanced programming. So although LASS is a go to for me and owning it does keep me from buying anything new for now, if I were not an owner of LASS right now I might opt to go for one of the other libraries I mentioned or wait for LASS 3, which is sure to be killer given the attention Andrew puts into his libraries. The main reason to still consider LASS 2 is if you think the legatos are preferred over other libraries and the fact that it has Divisi for every section. Chris Heins does not have Divisi sections but Century strings does but only for Violins (which I find a little odd)- Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
You could perhaps get either Chris Heins or Century Strings and also get Hyperion to act as Divisi for these (with it's ability to act as smaller sections) if you can get them to blend well together.
These are just thoughts I would have if I was currently looking for a new string library.

Sorry for the long post, just trying to be helpful.

Edit: Chris Hein does have the ability to set the size of your sections but I don't know if this can also be used as divisi without phasing issues. Of course there is always the transpose trick that could make it work
 
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Craig Peters

Active Member
Hi
im planing to get either lass legato sordino strings or hyperion strings.
Can you tell me how the legato sounds in this library and which one i should get in your opinion??
The legato in Hyperion Strings Micro is scripted, but the elements version will have true legato. Also if you get the micro version you can apply your purchase for full credit towards elements or the full version!
 

playz123

Senior Member
Not sure how this thread got sidetracked to a LASS one, but in my opinion trying to discuss the current version of Hyperion Strings in comparison to LASS in its finished form is basically wasted effort. :) Anyone who has worked with LASS over the years will also quickly realize Hyperion Strings is going to be a completely different sounding product.

Getting back to Hyperion, what I like right now about Hyperion Micro is the sound, the potential exhibited, and the current features. It may surprise many as to what one can do already with this little gem. And so what if the legato is currently scripted, it won't be in the next versions. The more one works with the micro version, the more one realizes, that if it's this good now, imagine what the future holds. And of course, Soundiron has built a solid reputation over the years and is, IMHO, one of the best music software companies on the planet, so that's a factor to consider as well.

Finally, I for one have read the manual, which I believe Mike wrote, and so can suggest that is indeed worthwhile to do so! :)
 

Wake

Member
Can anybody share any thoughts on the layering potential of Hyperion Strings?
I own SCS, a couple of all-in-one orchestral toolkits yet no dedicated large string library.

Would appreciate comments from someone who has both. I am really in love with
SCS and am looking for an inexpensive way to add girth to it.
 
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robgb

robgb

I was young once
Can anybody share any thoughts on the layering potential of Hyperion Strings?
I own SCS, a couple of all-in-one orchestral toolkits yet no dedicated large string library.

Would appreciate comments from someone who has both. I am really in love with
SCS and am looking for an inexpensive way to add girth to it.
I think they're perfect for layering, but have not tried it with my Albion strings.
 

sostenuto

Big NKS Fan !
Not sure how this thread got sidetracked to a LASS one, but in my opinion trying to discuss the current version of Hyperion Strings in comparison to LASS in its finished form is basically wasted effort. :) Anyone who has worked with LASS over the years will also quickly realize Hyperion Strings is going to be a completely different sounding product.

Getting back to Hyperion, what I like right now about Hyperion Micro is the sound, the potential exhibited, and the current features. It may surprise many as to what one can do already with this little gem. And so what if the legato is currently scripted, it won't be in the next versions. The more one works with the micro version, the more one realizes, that if it's this good now, imagine what the future holds. And of course, Soundiron has built a solid reputation over the years and is, IMHO, one of the best music software companies on the planet, so that's a factor to consider as well.

Finally, I for one have read the manual, which I believe Mike wrote, and so can suggest that is indeed worthwhile to do so! :)
Well, @ Motr3B inquired re. LASS, and some response followed.

OK, no more diversions from Hyperion Strings Micro ….
 

Zoot_Rollo

Throbbing Member
He did indeed. Glad to hear someone reads the user manual. ;)

speaking of the manual - looks pretty exciting!!!

When you’re ready to move up to a more powerful and complete palette, you can upgrade seamlessly to the vastly larger Elements and full Symphonic Editions of our Hyperion Strings product line (coming soon). In both, you’ll find other specialized sustain types as well, such as fingered, glissed and bow-change true-legato styles, trills, ponticello, harmonics, flautando, runs and more. The Elements and Symphonic tiers also include additional staccato and spiccato types, as well as more exotic short note styles like col legno, Bartok pizzicatos, ponticello and flautando, along with even more round robin variations per note for a truly lifelike playing experience. You’ll also find a huge number of different dynamic expressions and specialized bow strokes in all lengths, dynamics, styles and intensities to make emotive, realistic and dynamic scoring a breeze. The full Symphonic edition also provides even more specialized bow strokes, articulations and special effects for advanced users, as well as multiple microphone positions for custom and surround mixing, including a startlingly life-like and profoundly robust player perspective.
 

Ramunas

New Member
Hi,

these strings do look interesting. But i wonder those who have Komplete 11 Ultimate with Session Strings Pro (seems to be the closest alternative in Komplete) how do these compare to this micro library sound wise?

I use strings in electronic music usualy for a short part ect.