How to sketch with EW Hollywood...?

x-dfo

Member
Hi,
Totally new to orchestration/composing using orchestral stuff, but very experienced with DAW production/sound design. I'm just getting settled into the Composer Cloud and I've been painstakingly setting up my template in ableton. I personally think overall it sounds pretty amazing and is pretty efficient. I have like 80 tracks going and I think it uses maybe 40% of my cpu meter.

BUT this feels alot like maneuvering a commercial airliner and doesn't seem like an ideal way to sketch out ideas. There's a lot of tracks and articulations to navigate! So I was wondering if any of you experienced cats out there had a sketch workflow or template layouts using EWHO, I'm even open to ensemble product alternatives that can sit with EWHO.

Cheers,
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Zero&One

Senior Member
Use the Full strings patches, There's a low Brass Patch in there and probably other ensemble type ones.
 

gst98

Member
yeah, HWO sounds great but it takes some time with programming to get it sounding good, that paired with its lack of variety of ensemble patches makes it not ideal for sketching. I totally understand the airliner thing, but I think it might be unavoidable with HWO.
 

Zero&One

Senior Member
What would you recommend instead?
There are a few, and you'll likely get numerous answers.
But before throwing money at another library, download free stuff like Spitfire labs, ProjectSAM, Fluffy, PerformanceSamples etc etc. Might not be a coherent sound, but if it's just ideas and you are just starting out. They are free, lightweight and usually have sustains etc for sketching.

Templates are great but also have their drawbacks as you are finding. So just slap in a EWHO sustain & Stacc patch per instrument and make some tuneage :) Worry about fine tuning it with 87 articulations later when it's fleshed out. Experienced guys are that, experienced. They know what they want and why,so templates lend themselves very well to their needs.
 

proxima

Active Member
You might find Spitfire Originals suitable for sketching - they're basically patches from the original Albion I put in their new player. They have a "live" patch that attempts to combine longs and shorts, but I prefer to use the individual patches. I wish they supported keyswitches with this product though; perhaps in an update. But if you're a one-instrument-articulation-per-track type, you can definitely rig that up in a few minutes.

Worst case, at least with the strings, you end up with an inexpensive library that's great for layering.
 
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x-dfo

Member
There are a few, and you'll likely get numerous answers.
But before throwing money at another library, download free stuff like Spitfire labs, ProjectSAM, Fluffy, PerformanceSamples etc etc. Might not be a coherent sound, but if it's just ideas and you are just starting out. They are free, lightweight and usually have sustains etc for sketching.

Templates are great but also have their drawbacks as you are finding. So just slap in a EWHO sustain & Stacc patch per instrument and make some tuneage :) Worry about fine tuning it with 87 articulations later when it's fleshed out. Experienced guys are that, experienced. They know what they want and why,so templates lend themselves very well to their needs.
Thanks for this, really helpful!
 
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x-dfo

Member
You might find Spitfire Originals suitable for sketching - they're basically patches from the original Albion I put in their new player. They have a "live" patch that attempts to combine longs and shorts, but I prefer to use the individual patches. I wish they supported keyswitches with this product though; perhaps in an update. But if you're a one-instrument-articulation-per-track type, you can definitely rig that up in a few minutes.

Worst case, at least with the strings, you end up with an inexpensive library that's great for layering.
Good to know, I'll have a look.