How to share desktop and stream DAW audio through Skype.....

OleJoergensen

Senior Member
Hello musicians.

Yesterday I had a cam session with a student, over Skype.
He could see my desktop- Logic but not hear the audio.
We also tried swift over, so I could see his desktop and Ableton live but only hear the sound very low.
Is there a way to route the DAW audio to Skype on both Mac osx and Windows?
Is Skype a good solution for this?

I hope you al are well and healthy!

best Ole.
 

Anami

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Don't know about sharing screen but I'm teaching piano on my mac and what works perfectly for me is Loopback. Works perfectly, you can choose all the apps you want to send through. So you can use standalone apps/logic and FaceTime or Skype/Zoom... It's not free but works really well.
 
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OleJoergensen

Senior Member
Thank you Anami.
It looks quite good, I will try it :).

Now Im looking for a loopback equivalent For windows....
 
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OleJoergensen

Senior Member
@Anami
hello Anami.

I bought and installed Loopback and it is easy to use and good.
i also discovered I can use it with Screenflow. I can route audio from both Logic and a mic to Screenflow and it sound good, I have not figured that out with “only“ Screenflow even it has settings for that.
Can I ask how you teach piano online? How is your setup + apps?

Ole.
 

Garlu

Active Member
Zoom might be a good option for video conferencing, including computer audio, your webcam, share screen, etc.
It's great! and Free!

 

jbuhler

Senior Member
Zoom might be a good option for video conferencing, including computer audio, your webcam, share screen, etc.
It's great! and Free!

Zoom works ok, but you have to be careful with your routing. If you go with the defaults it does dreadful things to music, especially recorded music. If you want to be able to talk over your music you will need to set things up to pass both mic and computer audio to zoom at the same time.

With music, be sure to use original sound: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115003279466-Preserve-original-sound
 

Anami

Member
Thank you Anami.
It looks quite good, I will try it :).

Now Im looking for a loopback equivalent For windows....
I use loopback and Skype or FaceTime. But zoom is an option because I found out that you can share screen as well. For my piano sound I have spectrasonics keyscape. Now I'm thinking of ways for my students to improve their sound. It's one thing to listen to them play beginner pieces. But If I'm going to listen to for example Chopin, it's get really difficult judging dynamics.
 
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OleJoergensen

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Zoom might be a good option for video conferencing, including computer audio, your webcam, share screen, etc.
It's great! and Free!

Thank you Garlu.
As I understand it Zoom is a paid service pr. month.
After I did setup the audio ruting using Loopback I tried an other Skype session with my student and he said he could hear everything clearly. I still have to find a solution for him because the sound from his platform did not sound that good also the screen sharing is not sharp, so it is impossible to read track names etc. I dont know if it is caused by lack of internet bandwidth or purely quality of Skype.
But well, this Corona virus certainly make us al try some new :)
 
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OleJoergensen

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I use loopback and Skype or FaceTime. But zoom is an option because I found out that you can share screen as well. For my piano sound I have spectrasonics keyscape. Now I'm thinking of ways for my students to improve their sound. It's one thing to listen to them play beginner pieces. But If I'm going to listen to for example Chopin, it's get really difficult judging dynamics.
Thank you Anami.

I also experienced lack of audio quality with Skype, which is quite limiting when we work with audio.
I discovered I aslo can use Loopback to send audio from Logic and audio from a mic to Screenflow when making youtube videos- screen recording Logic sessions (I just started). The only solution I could think of, before you told about Loopback, was to setup an old Mac+ audio interface and record the mic separately. Well, I have not tested if the mic recording sound better that way but it is much more easy to just send the mic audio by Loopback- so thank you for good advice :).

Next week I will try Skype piano calls with 2 students as a start to test it. I aslo send logic audio + mic audio to Skype or Face-time using Loopback. It will be interesting, most students only have a smartphone..... :-/.
 

Montisquirrel

Active Member
Just check if the Audio Setup in your DAW and in Windows is the same. I had the same problem and realized that I used a Focusrite Asio driver in my DAW but another Audio Out in Windows (you can change that by clicking on the small speaker on the right side on the windows taskbar).

Edit: What's your goal? If you just want to teach piano you can also try to use your piano software (e.g. Kontakt) as a standalone without Logic.
 
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OleJoergensen

Senior Member
Thank you, it is very generous of you sharing this serious and well thought work.
I had decided to try Zoom for my online teaching. Ive used Skype for 10 days and the audio quality is quite pure. But yesterday I recieved a mail from the IT office there is in charge of al IT in the commune Im employed, that there was discovered serious security flaws in Zoom, so for the moment Im not allowed to use that. But I hope Zoom will fix that.
 
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OleJoergensen

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I use loopback and Skype or FaceTime. But zoom is an option because I found out that you can share screen as well. For my piano sound I have spectrasonics keyscape. Now I'm thinking of ways for my students to improve their sound. It's one thing to listen to them play beginner pieces. But If I'm going to listen to for example Chopin, it's get really difficult judging dynamics.
Hello Anami.

A question for you if you have time....
I tried Facetime but I cant figure out how to set up the audio with Loopback.
I use the same loopback setup as I use with Skype but on Facetime I cant hear the student...