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How do you use HWB within a trailer context?

sIR dORT

Active Member
I know that there are brass libs that are tailored for trailer stuff more (i.e. Trailer Brass), but I still think that I can use HWB for trailer stuff. So, for those who have it and use it in trailers (if any), how do you make HWB sound more cinematic/trailery (like Trailer Brass) instead of very classical/orchestral?
 

ProfoundSilence

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The absolute state of trailer music...

HWB horns was THE sound, while things like trailer brass don't even sound like brass.... they sound like synthesizers.

The reality is, that you're probably using the wrong instruments in the wrong ranges. what instruments are you trying to use?

What does your low brass voicing look like? I don't have HWB installed these days, but there is plenty of meat on them bones.
 
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sIR dORT

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The absolute state of trailer music...

HWB horns was THE sound, while things like trailer brass don't even sound like brass.... they sound like synthesizers.

The reality is, that you're probably using the wrong instruments in the wrong ranges. what instruments are you trying to use?

What does your low brass voicing look like? I don't have HWB installed these days, but there is plenty of meat on them bones.
I'm mainly trying to use the 2+1 trombones for low brass, and then 6 French horns for the mid to mid-higher ranges.

The thing that I'm having trouble with is that they sound to up in my face in a mix, whereas when I here well produced trailer mix, the brass are there, but not as much not up in your face. I haven't found turning down the tracks to work much.
 

BenG

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I'm mainly trying to use the 2+1 trombones for low brass, and then 6 French horns for the mid to mid-higher ranges.

The thing that I'm having trouble with is that they sound to up in my face in a mix, whereas when I here well produced trailer mix, the brass are there, but not as much not up in your face. I haven't found turning down the tracks to work much.
What mix/reverb set-up are you using? HWB is quite dry and needs to be treated properly to sit within an orchestral mix.

I always found HWB to be great with a huge sound.
 
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sIR dORT

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What mix/reverb set-up are you using? HWB is quite dry and needs to be treated properly to sit within an orchestral mix.

I always found HWB to be great with a huge sound.
I dump a ton of Valhalla Room on.
 

ProfoundSilence

Active Member
#1 mistake? is to ride the mod wheel to 127.

everything looses it's body - and turns into harsh buzzing.

for low brass, use tuba and cimbassi an octave below the bones. You might even like the bass bone down there too depending on how high you're going.

That said, Don't go too low on the low brass either. Saggy ass flaps are mighty - only go as low as you can while keeping a meaty low fundamental.

you might need to cut some of the lows/low mids back a bit to push it further in the room - but proper orchestration is important - even for trailer music... not because of the playability, but simply the tone quality of the instruments in different ranges.
 

Wolfie2112

Senior Member
I have only ever used HW Brass and SO Brass for epic cues. Lots of good advice here, I should also add that you should use the legato patches for the big melody lines....and ride the MOD wheel to breath realism and dynamics into the parts. I’d also be careful about adding too much of that reverb.
 
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